Projectors, Yup! Options

[Supersprynt]

There are countries that drive on the right in europe also.
The projectors require an H1 base bulb. And the projectors are low beams only. The clear highs are identical except theres clear glass instead of the the squares.

[Fietsbel]

hehe i'm getting confused

The thing is, the JDM headlights are made for RHD cars (and they drive on the left side of the road)
Cars in the UK are the same as in Japan. but in the rest of europe is it the opposit way. The cars are LHD and we are driving on the right side of the road.

So far, totally clear this part
[just to make sure that i have got everything right]

But how can i adjust the JDM lights to a LHD car? is there a screw or something like that?
It's is really important for me to know.

The thing is, to have RHD lamps on a LHD car is illegal in the Netherlands!
If i cannot adjust the lamps enough, i have to convert them and that wil cost me loads of Euro's/dollars ~ 500 euro's = 650 dollar, only to convert them!

[Consynx]

it's illegal in the US too, but ppl just dont care i guess

sorry, i dont own projectors...so im not much of a help

[doGGy]

The main thing on all projector assembly is wall in front of reflector:



The metal thingy. it cuts of the light, so you get the almost straight line of cutoff.
LHD cars have projectors with cutoff like this:


RHD have the cut off line revesed (flip horizontal) (im not 100%, but it may be this..)

This needed what the side of the road must be lightned more then the center of the road, to see objects on the side of the road...

Depending on the cut off patchs (see the picture) the lines will be at different angles. Myne BMW projectors (that i used in my headlights) have cut off with almost straight light path,so they can be used either on LHD or RHD



if your projectors will have very small difference in cut off line heighs you can use them without reworking...

another case you can lower your lighs a bit, so you wount blind anyone on the road (this will reduce your visibility), or either open your headlights, remove projector assembly and rotate the metal wall, so you can have the LHD setup. it is not what hard,and it can be done easily by anyone, but the major problem is to open headlights... But this already been solved with the boiling water technic..

Any more questions?

hehe i'm getting confused

The thing is, the JDM headlights are made for RHD cars (and they drive on the left side of the road)
Cars in the UK are the same as in Japan. but in the rest of europe is it the opposit way. The cars are LHD and we are driving on the right side of the road.

So far, totally clear this part
[just to make sure that i have got everything right]

But how can i adjust the JDM lights to a LHD car? is there a screw or something like that?
It's is really important for me to know.

The thing is, to have RHD lamps on a LHD car is illegal in the Netherlands!
If i cannot adjust the lamps enough, i have to convert them and that wil cost me loads of Euro's/dollars ~ 500 euro's = 650 dollar, only to convert them!
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This post has been edited by doGGy: Dec 21, 2004 - 6:04 PM

[Manta5x]

the aim can be adjusted on all headlghts
I have a 2002 honda accord that was in an accident and one of the head lights had to be replaced , the body shop , installed a new one but did not adjusted it at all, and it was aiming down and far as it can go. I coudnt see well at night on that side, I had to turn the screw that controlls up and down ,there is another that controlls left and right. there is an adjustment screw on all lights because all of them required periodic adjustments. even in chiltons celica manual , it is mentioned that whenever you work on your lights make sure they are adusted properly as to night blind oncoming traffic so even stock lhd lights can be dangerous if not aimed properly. Ive seen people drive with one headlight, high beams on constant. I used to work at night and there was this guy in a BMW 328 that would always get behind me almost everynight , and his regular lows looked like highs. blinding me when I looked in my rear veiw mirror and his lights are legal.

[Manta5x]

also , when 2 LHD cars pass each other, lets say in a parking lot where its possible to pass each other cars on each passenger side RH side , does anyone notice any blinding?

[Fietsbel]

The main thing on all projector assembly is wall in front of reflector:



The metal thingy. it cuts of the light, so you get the almost straight line of cutoff.
LHD cars have projectors with cutoff like this:


RHD have the cut off line revesed (flip horizontal) (im not 100%, but it may be this..)

This needed what the side of the road must be lightned more then the center of the road, to see objects on the side of the road...

Depending on the cut off patchs (see the picture) the lines will be at different angles. Myne BMW projectors (that i used in my headlights) have cut off with almost straight light path,so they can be used either on LHD or RHD



if your projectors will have very small difference in cut off line heighs you can use them without reworking...

another case you can lower your lighs a bit, so you wount blind anyone on the road (this will reduce your visibility), or either open your headlights, remove projector assembly and rotate the metal wall, so you can have the LHD setup. it is not what hard,and it can be done easily by anyone, but the major problem is to open headlights... But this already been solved with the boiling water technic..

Any more questions?

hehe i'm getting confused

The thing is, the JDM headlights are made for RHD cars (and they drive on the left side of the road)
Cars in the UK are the same as in Japan. but in the rest of europe is it the opposit way. The cars are LHD and we are driving on the right side of the road.

So far, totally clear this part
[just to make sure that i have got everything right]

But how can i adjust the JDM lights to a LHD car? is there a screw or something like that?
It's is really important for me to know.

The thing is, to have RHD lamps on a LHD car is illegal in the Netherlands!
If i cannot adjust the lamps enough, i have to convert them and that wil cost me loads of Euro's/dollars ~ 500 euro's = 650 dollar, only to convert them!
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That sounds good.

But instead of rotating de metal thingy, wouldn't it be better if i take the metal thing out of the right lamp and place that one in the left lamp, and vica versa?

And is that trick with the boiling water difficult? i mean, is it safe and easilly to do?
i don't want to destroy such expensive things

http://www.6gc.net/index.php?action=howto&itu=57

[doGGy]

if you took the metal wall from one projector and replacet it in another, it would be compleatly the same Cuz if you look closly into these pics you might understand, that the wall has to be rotated, that the cut of was in different direction.

the lines of cut off on the LHD goes like this:
________/'''''''''''''''''''''


and on RHD it goes liek this:

'''''''''''''''''''\__________

you get the point? So the RHD walls need to be fliper horizontaly


And about boiling water, the longer you will boil your headlight, the easyer the glass will take off. It is harder to brake plastic glass, i was scear to remove the stock glasses too (and they are made of real glass, and it not bends it breaks), but once i used boiling water, i saw that it was easy job
Boil the headlight for about 15 min, and i can garante you that the fornt glass will remove easily.. And dont try to get whole headlight under water, make sure that the half of the headlight (front glass must be unde water), was under water, and youll be ok, if the glues doesnt relise easy, then try to boil it again...

This post has been edited by doGGy: Dec 22, 2004 - 1:29 AM

[Fietsbel]

if you took the metal wall from one projector and replacet it in another, it would be compleatly the same Cuz if you look closly into these pics you might understand, that the wall has to be rotated, that the cut of was in different direction.

the lines of cut off on the LHD goes like this:
________/'''''''''''''''''''''


and on RHD it goes liek this:

'''''''''''''''''''\__________

you get the point? So the RHD walls need to be fliper horizontaly


And about boiling water, the longer you will boil your headlight, the easyer the glass will take off. It is harder to brake plastic glass, i was scear to remove the stock glasses too (and they are made of real glass, and it not bends it breaks), but once i used boiling water, i saw that it was easy job
Boil the headlight for about 15 min, and i can garante you that the fornt glass will remove easily.. And dont try to get whole headlight under water, make sure that the half of the headlight (front glass must be unde water), was under water, and youll be ok, if the glues doesnt relise easy, then try to boil it again...
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My hero!, thanks for the explanation.

[Supersprynt]

I thought about doing this flip thing because of the "flare". The "flare" is the portion that well, flares upward so that you can see road signs. Now it is harder for me to see road signs because my flare is now going towards oncoming traffic, and thus kinda blinds people. I did adjust them so now they arent what I would call ideal, however I dont get flashed, and I can see road.

Personally, I wasnt willing to risk screwing up a $300 light assembly so I deal with it, perhaps someone has the guts to do this.

[1bwilson]

Super, Would you say the difference betweem stock and porjectors are worth $759? Im trying to justify buying them. My lights are TERRIBLE at night. 1 high is dead cause of 3" of water in the lense.

[shid]

So, yes? the projectors have a screw type adjustment like regular lights?

And where can we get the highs? just off ebay? or was someone saying that "projector highs" are the same as ours just with a clear lens?

This post has been edited by shid: Dec 22, 2004 - 11:40 AM

[Supersprynt]

Yes the projectors adjust the same way as USDM heads. Are they worth 760 for better lighting? I cant possibly justify spending that much so you can see better. I got them because of the way they look, I also have HID in there so I can see everything. If you have bad lighting, invest in driving lights or better bulbs (PIAA). Or in your case, fix your lights.
$800 can be spent on other stuff before lights, I simply am nuts.

Also: there are no projector highs, they are clear highs thats all. The $760 includes the 4 lamps. I bought my highs from Toyota World, and got my projectors from someone else so I actually got my entire set up for $650.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 22, 2004 - 1:16 PM

[doGGy]

Super, can you get me a picture of highs, close up, what i could see the inside of the lamps.. And if you could get me a picture of lows too it would be really nice...

I thought about doing this flip thing because of the "flare". The "flare" is the portion that well, flares upward so that you can see road signs. Now it is harder for me to see road signs because my flare is now going towards oncoming traffic, and thus kinda blinds people. I did adjust them so now they arent what I would call ideal, however I dont get flashed, and I can see road.

Personally, I wasnt willing to risk screwing up a $300 light assembly so I deal with it, perhaps someone has the guts to do this.
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And another thing, i'v done angel eyes onto BMW X5, done housing change on BMW M5 headlighs, and lots of other modification on expensive headlighs, i'v opened them, closed, painted and etc... Now i can tell, first time i was trying to open BMW X5 headlights my hands where shaking, cuz one light cost about 450 - 500$ here.. BUT, headlight with Lexan glass, are 10 times easyer to open, and close, cuz then you head them up, the lexan glass holds the heat longer then ordinary glass, and it WOUNT CRACK if you'll be cearfull with it, i cant say this about normal glass, it will crack instantly if trying too hard..

You can even use hot air gun to open lights with lexan glasses, just take your time, ant take it easy ya know how i think? If some one assembled headlight, so they can be reasembled too Just try, and you will see



This post has been edited by doGGy: Dec 22, 2004 - 2:14 PM

[Fietsbel]

Some close up pictures would be nice!

[doGGy]

here, i found the cut off of the JDM projectors (celica projectors):


And you can compare this to the beam of LHD projectors:


And here are few closeups of the projectors and highs:









In the close up pics you can see bolts from the back of the housing, so by turning these bolts you can adjust the light path... Hope it helps to some one

P.S. John, ya know i love ya Thanks for pics..

This post has been edited by doGGy: Dec 23, 2004 - 2:12 AM

[Fietsbel]

Great! thanks for the pics.

But when i want to do the complete convert i have to open de lamp.

On this picture you can see the inside:




Take that metal thingy out of the lamp and then switch/rotate the metal plate that is in the projector, right?

This post has been edited by Fietsbel: Dec 23, 2004 - 7:16 AM

[Supersprynt]

Sorry I didnt see this until this morning.
Here is some HID flare:

[1bwilson]

Yes the projectors adjust the same way as USDM heads. Are they worth 760 for better lighting? I cant possibly justify spending that much so you can see better. I got them because of the way they look, I also have HID in there so I can see everything. If you have bad lighting, invest in driving lights or better bulbs (PIAA). Or in your case, fix your lights.
$800 can be spent on other stuff before lights, I simply am nuts.

Also: there are no projector highs, they are clear highs thats all. The $760 includes the 4 lamps. I bought my highs from Toyota World, and got my projectors from someone else so I actually got my entire set up for $650.
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Super, please edit your reply to me to say "Are they worth 760 for better lighting? Hell yeah they are. I'd have payed twice that for them!!! Go get them now."

Thank you

[Fietsbel]

What kind of lamps do i have to use in these lamps?
The H4 , H7 or some other H?