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After looking at pix of 3sgte swamps most ppl have trouble running the pipe to a fmic cus of where the exhaust manifold is.
I was thinking y not just use two rather long but short incoolers. but one on top of the other and run the piping through one and out the other kinda like a but U. This seems like a simple solution to a problem. Ive never seen this dun so there must be a reason y not. Cost? airflow restiction? basically it would look like this (front vew) |----INTERCOOLER1---(outlet to intake manifold) | |----INTERCOOLER2----(inlet from tubo) | and - are piping |
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QUOTE(urbandork @ Dec 13, 2004 - 1:55 PM) After looking at pix of 3sgte swamps most ppl have trouble running the pipe to a fmic cus of where the exhaust manifold is. I was thinking y not just use two rather long but short incoolers. but one on top of the other and run the piping through one and out the other kinda like a but U. This seems like a simple solution to a problem. Ive never seen this dun so there must be a reason y not. Cost? airflow restiction? basically it would look like this (front vew) |----INTERCOOLER1---(outlet to intake manifold) | |----INTERCOOLER2----(inlet from tubo) | and - are piping [right][snapback]220937[/snapback][/right] They actually make intercoolers designed like this. Basically its a single piece with a dual layer design. |
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so ho come no one uses them on thier projects it would seem like it would be easier to run piping? Are they expensive or something?
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QUOTE(urbandork @ Dec 13, 2004 - 1:51 PM) so ho come no one uses them on thier projects it would seem like it would be easier to run piping? Are they expensive or something? [right][snapback]220978[/snapback][/right] What is more expensive? One intercooler, or two? It's also the fact that the opening on the front of a celica really isn't that large. One long intercooler is the best bet... or you could go water to air and be different. ![]() |
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They arent efficient. Audi 5kqt had a similar design and it sucked.
A single core with inlet on one side, outlet on the other and tapered endtaks is closer to ideal for flow and pressure drop. What the big prob with putting a regular FMIC in a 3s swap? This post has been edited by Fox-N-It2: Dec 13, 2004 - 6:39 PM |
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urbandork, i dont really understand what problem you are talking about. i had no major issues when doing my fmic.
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I'm no sure if he's talking about running the intake pipe over the engine- like you have lagos (which isn't idle) or.. what.. I dunno what he's talking about if it's not the "over the engine" problem -where the intake air gets heated up to almos the point the turbo heated it up to before the IC.
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i am also unsure of what problem you are trying to solve with the dual IC configuration. If it is the pipes over the exhaust manifold problem, i dont see how dual ICs would solve that. Perhaps you could draw a better picture??
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i c i c. Now i dont even know what i was talking about. I think iwas thinking about a problem that wasnt even there in the first place.
lol my bad please forgive. |
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lol... "Don't smoke crack"
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shid, the 3sgte intake manifold is located right in the center of the motor. on the 5sfe and 7a you have it right on the side. so there is no way to not to run the piping over the hot valve cover.
the biggest issue i had was when the "hot" piping coming off the turbo woud touch the "cold" pipe going to the throttle body and heat it up. i solved this problem by wraping my pipes in exhaust heat wrap. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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