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> First race in the 3s, Acura Integra Type R
post Dec 23, 2004 - 5:48 PM
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he chose not to get it...
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post Dec 23, 2004 - 5:52 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Dec 23, 2004 - 5:24 PM)
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You only have a faster car if you know how to drive it.


My launch was poor but that doesn't mean I don't know how to drive it. I am just a little tentative with my baby. wink.gif

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look at it this way, if you had the corvette it wouldn't have even stood a chance in the rain


ahhhh....don't remind me about that car..... biggrin.gif
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I had a feeling you woulda taken it that way - it wasnt a personal thing towards you it was a generalization - didnt say you couldnt drive.


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post Dec 23, 2004 - 6:07 PM
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I had a feeling you woulda taken it that way - it wasnt a personal thing towards you it was a generalization - didnt say you couldnt drive.


Now I am a bad driver and too sensitive....laughs.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Dec 23, 2004 - 6:22 PM
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no worries Jay. with that loss you now have some incentive to upgrade your 3s. and maybe learn to drive better while your at it wink.gif
post Dec 23, 2004 - 6:24 PM
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LMAO


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Dec 23, 2004 - 6:30 PM
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my comment is, honda sucks.... i'm just a honda hater lol..... my friend owns a 01 integra GSR and he couldn't even catch up with me, widen the distance right from the start. so i guess you losing to the type R's just due to lack of experience. i totally believe that the 3sgte powered 6gc can easily smoke the type R. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 23, 2004 - 7:55 PM
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The GSR is not the Type R. At the time of original production, it had more hp per liter than any production car.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Dec 23, 2004 - 8:02 PM
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It's very hard to launch with 200 ftlbs of torque... that's it. That's why you lost on the launch and that's what cause you to not catch him. Although the ITR is no joke... I think you should be able to take him with work on your launch. The power is there... but it can be rendered useless...

As for those Honda haters who know nothing about tuning a Honda... unless you know, don't try to act 'cool' by passing judgement. Namely shin... you're already out of your league when it comes to Honda tech, and your friend with his GSR probably can't drive for sh!t... so don't talk unless you can back things up. You only make yourself sound like an idiot assuming things.


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post Dec 23, 2004 - 8:07 PM
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hmmm thats strange that u lost. ive yet to run a honda that could keep up with me at 10psi. maby u have a boost leak?

at 13psi you shoud be well over 200whp. what rpm were u shifting at?


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post Dec 23, 2004 - 8:33 PM
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I wonder how many of you folks have any experience with Type R's. It was a limited production vehicle - there only 1500 sold in the states in 2000. It is not anything like the GSR or other 'tegs.

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hmmm thats strange that u lost. ive yet to run a honda that could keep up with me at 10psi. maby u have a boost leak?

at 13psi you shoud be well over 200whp. what rpm were u shifting at?


My car is running very well. I don't think there is a boost leak. If there was, I would imagine the guage would not read 13psi. As for what RPM I was shifting, I wasn't really watching my tach but I would guess somewhere between 6000 and 6500.

Again, it was clear that the 3s was quicker - the driver just didn't do as good of a job at the line.

I am really not sure what hp I have at that boost level. However, with both cats and 13psi, I think I am probably around 190-200whp. Its just a guess.

Regards, Jay


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Dec 23, 2004 - 8:41 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Dec 24, 2004 - 1:33 AM)
I wonder how many of you folks have any experience with Type R's.  It was a limited production vehicle - there only 1500 sold in the states in 2000.  It is not anything like the GSR or other 'tegs. 
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I highly doubt anyone here has. I myself have only seen a couple, and driven swapped B18C5 Tegs/Civics, but have never had any hands on experience with the real ITR. It's almost a production racecar. Regardless... unless his engine is heavily modified, you should take him with practice. Like I said, 200 ft lbs of torque is not easy to control from a standstill.


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post Dec 23, 2004 - 8:49 PM
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jgreening, you would be amazed at hot tricky boost leak is. it can leak like a mofo and you gauge will still read normal. ive had to deal with that in my car before. but it must have been a drivers race, like u said.

most fast integras are low 15s maby high 14sec cars.


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post Dec 23, 2004 - 8:56 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 24, 2004 - 1:49 AM)
most fast integras are low 15s maby high 14sec cars.
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I beg to differ... but then again, I come from a different tuning crowd...


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post Dec 23, 2004 - 9:42 PM
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hm, doesn't sound right. The itr is an high 14 car. The 3s celi should be able to do mid 14s. Something happened


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post Dec 23, 2004 - 11:32 PM
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No offense to anyone here.

I may not know as much as all of you but i do know this.
This race was 100% a drivers race. If i was going to race my cousin's husband (he has a 03 viper RT/10) i have a chance of beating him if he stalls of the line with my celica. This guy just needs to learn how to manage his power, you have a really nice car. The Integra Type R is a really nice car but its not the ****, more like a piece of **** compared to a 3s-gte powered 6gc. Practice and race him again, i garuntee you wont be able to count the car lenghts between you at the finish!!!
post Dec 24, 2004 - 1:15 AM
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QUOTE(junhus69 @ Dec 24, 2004 - 4:32 AM)
No offense to anyone here.

I may not know as much as all of you but i do know this.
This race was 100% a drivers race. If i was going to race my cousin's husband (he has a 03 viper RT/10) i have a chance of beating him if he stalls of the line with my celica. This guy just needs to learn how to manage his power, you have a really nice car. The Integra Type R is a really nice car but its not the ****, more like a piece of **** compared to a 3s-gte powered 6gc. Practice and race him again, i garuntee you wont be able to count the car lenghts between you at the finish!!!
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I do take offense to this. Why? don't call something sh!t because its image was bastardized by the import scene. You obviously know jack about the car in question and obviously are just blowing chow to sound cool. Who the hell are you to judge something as crap when your car, shall I say, a vast majority of our cars, are nothing compared to an ITR? I don't often see Honda people talk crap about Celicas... I'm curious why some people here are so ignorant and simply say "it sucks" without any knowledge or justification... If it being a ricer car or 'common' is your reason, a slow car with fancy exterior mods is more of a ricer any day than a riced out Integra with a B18C... rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 24, 2004 - 1:21 AM
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personally, I love honda's. wow so many people will hate me now. i chose between buying a civic, and a 6gc. i guess i chose the *right* one, there were just too many civics out here. anyway, my boyfriend owns a 99 ex, with a full edelbrock turbo kit. running at only 5psi he can beat 5 litre mustangs, and that's also with stock internals. honda's are great great great cars, they're soo freakin reliable, they last forever! i know of an accord that has like, 600000 miles on it, NEVER replaced anything major on it, ever. just regular tune-ups and oil changes and **** like that, and it's still goin fine. i just think it's stupid when people hate honda's for absolutely no reason. there really isn't much difference between toyota and honda. they make different cars, obviously, but when it comes down to it, they both make amazing vehicles. ..just thought i'd put my 2 cents in smile.gif


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post Dec 24, 2004 - 2:48 AM
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QUOTE(95gtschick @ Dec 23, 2004 - 10:21 PM)
600000 miles
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six hundred thousand miles......................
You sure about that?
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QUOTE(95gtschick @ Dec 23, 2004 - 11:21 PM)
personally, I love honda's.  wow so many people will hate me now.  i chose between buying a civic, and a 6gc.  i guess i chose the *right* one, there were just too many civics out here.  anyway, my boyfriend owns a 99 ex, with a full edelbrock turbo kit.  running at only 5psi he can beat 5 litre mustangs, and that's also with stock internals.  honda's are great great great cars, they're soo freakin reliable, they last forever!  i know of an accord that has like, 600000 miles on it, NEVER replaced anything major on it, ever.  just regular tune-ups and oil changes and **** like that, and it's still goin fine.  i just think it's stupid when people hate honda's for absolutely no reason.  there really isn't much difference between toyota and honda.  they make different cars, obviously, but when it comes down to it, they both make amazing vehicles.  ..just thought i'd put my 2 cents in smile.gif
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Word. Honda bashing is dumb....I have a friend with an all white '02 RSX with the full JDM Integra Type R exterior conversion, and Type R wheels, and I really like it. Also, the stock RSX K-series engine has so much pull and excitement to it when you really get on the throttle....its really a fun car to cruise around in with him. Makes me kinda jealous. If anything, I think the power delivery and feel of the engine is far smoother than most sports cars I've been in, so its not fair to bust on a Honda.

Personally, they arent my favorite....but before anybody says anything negative or positive about a car, you should first have some real-world experience on which to base your opinions. wink.gif


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post Dec 24, 2004 - 3:27 AM
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ITR is a race car imo

LSD, 200hp, thinner body panels to save weight

the early ones in the US didnt have sunroof or AC i think

all those people that underestimate hondas need to go to a local 1/4 mile track and see NA hondas run low 13's all night long

RSX type S is my favorite honda. almost 20hp from just an intake on a NA 4cyl? man thats good


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