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post Dec 27, 2004 - 7:34 AM
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have see 'Fast and Furious' on dvd again yesterday, i know i'm sad tongue.gif

just a question to you guys, can you cut the roof of a celica and form a removable roof section like the supra in the film, i've seen these supras around !
and they where a standard from Toyota... but not a celica spec'

i don't know, but i think it could make a smart mod' to a ride !!

what do you guy think, and can it be done ????


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post Dec 27, 2004 - 8:14 AM
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Its called a Targa top. They were pre-bult like this from the factory. You CAN NOT do this to a Celica. If you want a Targa, go buy a Supra, Del Sol, or NSX. If you cut the roof out, the frame would buckle. Stick with your sunroof.

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post Dec 27, 2004 - 8:37 AM
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not got a sun roof....

thanks, i thought that would be the answer.
i broke the back of my 'capri' in the 80's trying it wink.gif

i thought a targa top was when you still had the strip in the middle of the roof like with MR 2's !!!!



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post Dec 27, 2004 - 9:34 AM
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QUOTE(popstar @ Dec 27, 2004 - 7:37 AM)
not got a sun roof....

      thanks, i thought that would be the answer.
    i broke the back of my 'capri' in the 80's  trying it wink.gif

        i thought a targa top was when you still had the strip in the middle of the roof like with MR 2's !!!!
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Thats called T-Tops, because of the shape of a T on the roof. Targa is a complete roof removal. However frown.gif, Targa is no longer in production and there will be no more Targas ever.

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post Dec 27, 2004 - 10:05 AM
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i thoguth vettes still had targas... or am i thinking of somethign else
post Dec 27, 2004 - 10:18 AM
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BMW's got them, I think...if it's considered a targa top, why did I even post.

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post Dec 27, 2004 - 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(DamDirtyApes @ Dec 27, 2004 - 3:05 PM)
i thoguth vettes still had targas... or am i thinking of somethign else
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Covrvettes do have them, thats hwy they rule. There are a lot of rare cares that have them as an option u would never think about.

QUOTE(Ale_lock @ Dec 27, 2004 - 3:18 PM)
BMW's got them, I think...if it's considered a targa top, why did I even post.
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As Far as I know, there is not a BMW in the states that has a targa. Only convertable and sun-roof.

You could surley take a convertable. Make a rof, then make a targa, but that would be just plain stupid if u ask me.
post Dec 27, 2004 - 11:31 AM
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t-top: 2 planels above pass and driver. has a rod down the middle. EX: MR2, camaro

Targa: the roof comes off, but only as far back as about 2 feet. EX: corvette, del sol, supra, nsx

Convertable: I'm pretty sure you've figuered that one out.


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post Dec 27, 2004 - 7:14 PM
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my fav is t-tops tho
post Dec 27, 2004 - 7:28 PM
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QUOTE(DamDirtyApes @ Dec 28, 2004 - 12:14 AM)
my fav is t-tops tho
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why t-tops. They norm get more leaks, and the have a bar in the middle. I personally like targas the best.
post Dec 27, 2004 - 7:34 PM
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why not find a coupe at a junk yard cot the top off of that bring it home fabricate it to mount up and you have a targa. similar to a hard top s2000 they have removable roofs also... i think he means similar to a convertable where the top is copletely "down" except it is a hard top. am i right?
post Dec 28, 2004 - 7:38 AM
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Guys, i realy mind what it's called !!!!

first i'm in Russia so safety laws are pretty lax over here !!!

an if you can have a soft top car, why can't you just strenghen a
standard celica like a convertable and slice the roof ???



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post Dec 28, 2004 - 5:42 PM
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get a rag top and put a cut off roof section from a coupe. A lot of work must be dun but itll be the targa type tope jsut on a coupe and not a hatch.
post Dec 28, 2004 - 5:56 PM
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We've discussed this before. What it comes down to is that the coupe top is a lot heavier than the soft top a vert is braced for- you'd be trying to secure a VERY HEAVY hardtop by only a few bolts or whatever, and things will go wrong.

Same reason with the targa top- except if you chop the roof in half you no longer have the advantage of the flying buttress design to distribute the weight- so it'll land on your back quarter windows.
post Dec 28, 2004 - 6:01 PM
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What would could do if you already had a celica convertible, you could take and cut the top of a matching hard top celica and mod it to work with the convertible, rather then the cloth top, but it would not be an easy job. With that in mind you could also make a t top or targe with the same top frum the convertible, but its a big project.


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post Dec 28, 2004 - 6:33 PM
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QUOTE(creis @ Dec 28, 2004 - 11:01 PM)
What would could do if you already had a celica convertible, you could take and cut the top of a matching hard top celica and mod it to work with the convertible, rather then the cloth top, but it would not be an easy job. With that in mind you could also make a t top or targe with the same top frum the convertible, but its a big project.
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No, you couldn't. The weight difference is too radical. See my post right above yours
post Dec 28, 2004 - 6:37 PM
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Shid, I actually think you could probably put a hardtop on without doing any damage to the car. I think the car could easily support an extra 100-200 or so lbs. of roof. I mean, the car is designed to be able to hold four full-sized people in it. wink.gif


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post Dec 28, 2004 - 6:38 PM
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QUOTE(Coomer @ Dec 28, 2004 - 11:37 PM)
Shid, I actually think you could probably put a hardtop on without doing any damage to the car. I think the car could easily support an extra 100-200 or so lbs. of roof. I mean, the car is designed to be able to hold four full-sized people in it. wink.gif
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Its the stress points tho- where are you going to attach that extra weight? Where is the weight going to flow to? Etc etc
post Dec 28, 2004 - 7:15 PM
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I have to agree with Shid. You also take into affect of wind resistance. Figuring a Targa on a Celica would act like a big parachute dragging behind the car.

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post Dec 28, 2004 - 7:18 PM
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QUOTE(shid @ Dec 28, 2004 - 3:38 PM)
Its the stress points tho- where are you going to attach that extra weight? Where is the weight going to flow to? Etc etc
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I haven't looked up close at how the top goes down, but most of the weight would rest where the back of the hardtop would connect to the car, with some of the weight resting on the convertible's [re-inforced] a-pillars.

QUOTE(turboinduction @ Dec 28, 2004 - 4:15 PM)
I have to agree with Shid. You also take into affect of wind resistance.  Figuring a Targa on a Celica would act like a big parachute dragging behind the car.

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I wasn't thinking targa top, but more a removable hard top. wink.gif


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