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post Jan 27, 2005 - 1:18 PM
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just decided to post some info on the celica..........dont know if anyone else knows this, so sorry for the boring droll of this post.......

found out why the gt-4's production ended, and why it was never shipped stateside.......well simply put, it was too powerful stock. when toyota made this car, they really broke restriction in japan, that stated no car over 245hp can be produced ( if it fits into the category of a commuter car) actually nissan and honda both broke the same rules with a few cars that they produced...aka skyline. But the good thing is, toyota tried to redeem itself from that, by producing the engines of the 6th gen celica, and off-gen curren........., they werent as powerfulm but gave toyota a chance to produce good cars, at a consumers level....( oh and by the way the gt-4 stock killed stock skylines in terms of speed and horse power)

here is a link toassure yall of the gt-4's power just in case you didnt know.......only car really faster than this made by toyota, was a late model corolla. not on the link though.........
http://www.japanesesportcars.com/engines/

dand i had some other websites but i guess ill have to find them and repost later on..........well peace, and see yalls later
post Jan 27, 2005 - 1:22 PM
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No car over 245hp? The vr4 in early 90s was around 300hp


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post Jan 27, 2005 - 1:26 PM
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and what the heck is this:

Toyota Celica GT Four
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isn't that just the GTS?

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post Jan 27, 2005 - 1:37 PM
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QUOTE(SlowCelica94 @ Jan 27, 2005 - 2:22 PM)
No car over 245hp? The vr4 in early 90s was around 300hp
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there were quite a few cars that were over 280 ps. but it was a gentleman's agreement not to rate anything over that
post Jan 27, 2005 - 2:09 PM
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Someone said I was too mean so heres the nicer version.

Everything you said is wrong. Theres no rules about power and the ST205s never made it here because only 83 Alltracs were sold in 1993.

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post Jan 30, 2005 - 3:25 PM
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the power cap in Japan is 300hp... not 245hp.

And if it was a japanese cap, that wouldnt explain whythey didnt ship em to the US where there dosnt seem to be a cap of any sort.

and toyota made a little car you might have heard of, that was faster then a gt4... the Twin Turbo Supra.

And Skylines also came in different trims, the one most known being the GT-R skyline which was also TT and AWD, and there is no way a stock gt4 could kill a stock GT-R skyline.

edit: after looking at that page... alot of the info is wrong, I believe skylines and supra's are rated at 300HP, not 280.

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post Jan 30, 2005 - 4:28 PM
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There is an article in this month's car and driver that talks about the "unofficial" power cap that the japanese companies had until this year. Chobis is correct that it was 300hp. I dont remember the article fully but it only applied to some cars....possibly FF applications? I know cars like the Skyline and Supra didn't count....


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post Jan 30, 2005 - 5:51 PM
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well, they rated the Supra at like 280hp i believe, when it's actual was supposed to be 320...
this is taking my memory back to when i was a young grasshopper(haha, 2 years ago prob), so i could most definately be wrong.

anyways, i'd love to see a gt4 kill a Skyline, but i just dont see it happening.



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post Jan 30, 2005 - 6:02 PM
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Skylines got a better rep, that's all. I'm not saying that the GT-4 could beat a Skyline, but I think it's a lot more possible than most would think.


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post Jan 31, 2005 - 10:01 AM
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Well they dont use horsepower over there they use PS and you gotta convert it. I dont kno what the conversion is.


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post Jan 31, 2005 - 5:51 PM
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1.0 Pferdestärke (PS) = 0.9863 Horsepower (HP)

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