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post Apr 1, 2003 - 10:21 PM
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I need a new clutch soon so i figure i might as well take car of some other stuff in that area. I am thinking of a lightweight flywheel. Our cars don't have much power and thats just how it will be unless i swap engines so i wana try to get as much out of the 7AFE as I can. How much will the ASP underdrive pulley, and flywheel help power and responsiveness. Also, how much power am I loosing from the clutch slipping? What kind of difference did the new clutch make in acceleration from the old one. Im kinda used to it i guess.
post Apr 2, 2003 - 12:16 AM
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well i don't know the numbers but i do know that your flywheel and clutch are reall important in trasferring power from your engine to your transmission and from your transmission to your axles and from your axles to your wheels. so anything you do can help, doesn't matter if the hp gain is just 4 or 6 you have to start some were.


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post Apr 2, 2003 - 6:36 AM
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Ok just so you know, there is no lightweight flywheel for the 7afe, there is for the GT (5sfe???) and that was on nopi.com, i think it was like 10lbs. And for the clutch you should really look into getting a Stage 1-2 or Centerforce Dual Friction clutch. The stronger the grip the quicker you take off and the quicker and more efficient power is transfered.
post Apr 2, 2003 - 1:24 PM
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Like Macavely said, the flywheel will enable more power to the wheels - heres the thing, it wont increase horsepower in the engine, it'll allow more horsepower to reach the wheels. Just because you have a 135hp 5sfe (just an example) doesnt mean 135 are getting to the wheels, ur getting less. The lightweight flywheel allows the engine to work less - which is good - lets more power reach the tranny.
Downfall - theres no momentum. I cant think of another downside than this. The momentum of a heavier flywheel will keep the speed of the engine up for a couple seconds, if that. Lightweight flywheels are better for double clutching, if u kno how to do that.


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post Apr 2, 2003 - 1:55 PM
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yeah, but double clutching doesn't really do anything if you have syncros, does it?
post Apr 2, 2003 - 2:24 PM
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Yeah u can double clutch with any car - its basically just reving the engine between throwing it in gear again, so ur car basically pulls forward.


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post Apr 2, 2003 - 2:54 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 2, 2003 - 11:38 AM)
Yeah u can double clutch with any car - its basically just reving the engine between throwing it in gear again, so ur car basically pulls forward.

double-clutching is rev-matching when putting the car into a lower gear. for example, if your car is at 3000 rpm in 4th gear and you want to switch to 3rd, you would blip the throttle to 4000 rpm (lets just say for the sake of example) and shift into 3rd thereby creating a smoother transition and reducing wear on your synchros.
post Apr 2, 2003 - 5:14 PM
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Am i wrong then in thinking u can do it to accelerate, cuz i kinda do...sometimes.


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post Apr 3, 2003 - 5:15 AM
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I know when i raced my car i would never take my foot off the gas and it would cause my RPMs to keep going up and cause my car to shoot forward a little whenever i switched gears.
post Apr 3, 2003 - 6:46 AM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 2, 2003 - 1:38 PM)
Yeah u can double clutch with any car - its basically just reving the engine between throwing it in gear again, so ur car basically pulls forward.

I could be wrong on this so please tell me if I am. but isn't double cluthing first pedal press disengaing the clutche and the second pedal press stoping the greas in the transmission. and double cluthing is not needed in our cars at all if you press the pedal twice all you at are doing is the same thing twice.


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post Apr 3, 2003 - 11:14 AM
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Double clutching: while driving, take the car out of gear, rev the engine, put it back into gear. Smoother decceleration, faster acceleration, depending on how you use it.


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post Apr 3, 2003 - 12:56 PM
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double clutching has nothing to do with upshifting, it only works on downshifting.

the whole double clutching while drag racing thing is a myth perpetuated by 'that aweful movie'. remember the quote "granny shifting, not double clutching like you should". once again, double clutching has nothing to do with upshifting or accelerating or drag racing. maybe you guys are thinking of power shifting, but regardless its not double clutching.
post Apr 3, 2003 - 1:39 PM
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QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Apr 3, 2003 - 10:10 AM)
'that aweful movie'. remember the quote "granny shifting, not double clutching like you should". once again, double clutching has nothing to do with upshifting or accelerating or drag racing. .

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post Apr 3, 2003 - 3:13 PM
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Maybe its not DC'ing im doin, but sometimes I rev it between throwing 1st to 2nd or etc...



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post Apr 3, 2003 - 3:21 PM
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To bring the topic back to where it began - using an aftermarket flywheel for a 3sgte - ne body kno if its the 7.25''????


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post Apr 3, 2003 - 3:31 PM
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I think the only thing real off that movie was the body kits. and the rims.
post Apr 3, 2003 - 4:56 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Apr 3, 2003 - 2:35 PM)
To bring the topic back to where it began - using an aftermarket flywheel for a 3sgte - ne body kno if its the 7.25''????

After F&F came out - all any body ever did was ask me "Does your car have NOS?!?!"


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