help with car amps and subs??, help!!! Options

[cyb593]

i bought these 2 audiobahn 400 watt amps and i am trying to find a good amp well i think i found one but i am not sure how it will work can someone help me the amp information is:well down bottom it says 1x800 watts rms does this mean that the amp only puts out 800 watts. this questions might seem stupid but i am new at the audio thing. and also will my radio and regular speakers run off the amp or will they stay the same like they are. will i need more watt for the speakers and the head unit??sorry i am an idiot about this stuff i never really wanted to mess with to much audio till now. also one more thing will this amp suit what i need??


Audiobahn A8002T 2 Channel 1600W Amp
Class A/B MOSFET Power Amplifier
2 Ohm Stereo Stable
MOSFET High Speed Switching Power Supply
Non-Regulated Power Supply
Double Sided Epoxy Circuit Board
Air Induction Fan Cooled
RCA (Low Level) Inputs
Speaker (Hight Level) Inputs
RCA Outputs
Variable High Pass Crossover : 50Hz - 750Hz
Variable Low Pass Crossover : 50Hz - 120Hz
Variable Subsonic Filter : 20Hz - 50Hz
12dB Crossover Slope
Signal to Noise Ratio >100dB
0.02% T.H.D.
18dB Bass Boost
Bass Boost Control On/Off
Phase Shift 0° - 180°
1/2/3 Channel Operation (Mixed Mono)
Tri-way capable
Soft Start Circuitry
High Gloss Chrome Plate Finish
Blue Illumination
4-Way Protection Circuitry: Thermal, Short Circuit, Overload, DC Offset
30A x 2 Fuses
Dimensions: 11-1/16"W x 1-7/8"H x 11-7/8"D
2 x 200W RMS @ 4Ω
2 x 400W RMS @ 2Ω
1 x 800W RMS @ 4Ω

[Scarrell]

ok i am drunk... i just turned 20.. but uh... your first mistake was buying Audiobahn.... and you just said you bought two 400watt amps? and you are looking for an amp? hmm you got ripped off big time man.. take that Audiobahn **** back.. that is complete junk.... quit looking at Audiobahn all together.... look at the other car audio posts. and read my replies.. and also i am suyre i will be appologizing tomorrow sorry!!!!!!!!

[Hanyo]

:: Escorts Scarrel out off the room ::

Well first off. You need to tell us what you are using? (stock head unit? Speakers, subwoofer,.... that sort of thing)

Secondly, The rms watts is the important figure when considering amp power. You need to match the Amp's RMS with the subwoofer max handling RMS.

--------"and also will my radio and regular speakers run off the amp or will they stay the same like they are"

well that depends on how you hook it up. Do you want your amp to handle all the channels( every speaker) , OR do you want your head unit (reciever ) to keep deleivering signal and power to the speakers, and have a different amp for the subwoofer.

Simply.. you have not provided enough information for us to solve the problem. And I'll just let the audio pro-s give you more of a thorough solution, after you have answer my questions.

[cyb593]

i have a aiwa head unit and 4 polk speakers. is audiobahn really the best?? anyways i dont know which hook up i wont what is better?? i want whatever is best for my car. whether it be head unit and speakers hooked up to the amp what is the best way. i really appreciate all of ur help.

[Hanyo]

audiobahn is no where near the best. All the stuff they make is pretty much for looks and low end applications.

If you want the best, then get a 4 channel amp. One channel to drive each polk speaker. Then a sperate amp to drive the additionaly subwoofers. The brand of amp you choose is a matter of preference, I am bias towards pheniox gold products.

But before you can start getting into high end audio parts. you need to sound deaden your car to prevent the pannel and platic peices from rattling.

[cyb593]

well i am not trying to get performance speakers and subs. i need some bass. i need something decent i am not trying to max out as far as i can. just make my music sound alot better than just treble cause regular speakers dont give out much bass u know is audiobahn pretty decent for just the use i am using and also with wiring my 4 polk speakers to its own channel how many ground wires will i need?? will i only need 1 channel for each speaker or 1 for all four?? another reason i am not going for competition subs is because i aint got that kind of money. wish i did what do u think the audiobahn will be good just for basic use not liike competion. i am not mad at anything said i am grateful thanks everyone for help. still need help keep them coming

[Digndoug]

Id say upgrade your headunit, aiwa is pretty old and not great of a set preout for any sub setup. Id say go with pioneer, kenwood or alpine for good quality but low price. Go look at some bestbuy speacials.

Also audiobhan are not the great. Id suggest going for some alpine subs or rockford, which will keep you at low price and good sound. Also remember to sound match your subs and amp, so get the same brand.

[cyb593]

i just bought the aiwa head unit like 4 months ago dude i bought it from best buy it is basically brand new. this stuff aint free i just told u aint made out of money. i cant go buy new everything this is not for best performance i also said that this is just for more realistic music instead of mostly treble that regular speakers only give you.

[cyb593]

sorry not amps 2 400 watt subs sorry it was bad not amps subs. **** sorry anyways

i bought these 2 audiobahn 400 watt amps and i am trying to find a good amp well i think i found one but i am not sure how it will work can someone help me the amp information is:well down bottom it says 1x800 watts rms does this mean that the amp only puts out 800 watts. this questions might seem stupid but i am new at the audio thing. and also will my radio and regular speakers run off the amp or will they stay the same like they are. will i need more watt for the speakers and the head unit??sorry i am an idiot about this stuff i never really wanted to mess with to much audio till now. also one more thing will this amp suit what i need??


Audiobahn A8002T 2 Channel 1600W Amp
Class A/B MOSFET Power Amplifier
2 Ohm Stereo Stable
MOSFET High Speed Switching Power Supply
Non-Regulated Power Supply
Double Sided Epoxy Circuit Board
Air Induction Fan Cooled
RCA (Low Level) Inputs
Speaker (Hight Level) Inputs
RCA Outputs
Variable High Pass Crossover : 50Hz - 750Hz
Variable Low Pass Crossover : 50Hz - 120Hz
Variable Subsonic Filter : 20Hz - 50Hz
12dB Crossover Slope
Signal to Noise Ratio >100dB
0.02% T.H.D.
18dB Bass Boost
Bass Boost Control On/Off
Phase Shift 0° - 180°
1/2/3 Channel Operation (Mixed Mono)
Tri-way capable
Soft Start Circuitry
High Gloss Chrome Plate Finish
Blue Illumination
4-Way Protection Circuitry: Thermal, Short Circuit, Overload, DC Offset
30A x 2 Fuses
Dimensions: 11-1/16"W x 1-7/8"H x 11-7/8"D
2 x 200W RMS @ 4Ω
2 x 400W RMS @ 2Ω
1 x 800W RMS @ 4Ω
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[Scarrell]

hahah thanks Hanyo... sorry for last night... but uh. yeah Aiwa is pretty out of date... get a new HU.. look at the others posts about receivers for help on that.. anyway if you like the Audiobahn stuff then that is cool.... find out the subs RMS and then let us know.. you will want to (usually) find an amp that will give each sub their RMS or close to it.... also if you your cd player to power your speakers then that is fine, but if you get an amp for them, they will sound alot better... (if they arent factory, they will probably blow if they are..lol)

keep us updated and we can help you the best we can.

[cyb593]

800 combined watts of RMS power for 2 woofers. and how much should i spend on a new headunit and what kind?? well i need to know what amps i need for the head unit and speakers. well thats the subs. i know i need dynamat i got that covred. now what watt amp should i get for my speakers and head unit and what wattage should i get for the woofers. my speakers are polk and arent factory neither is my head unit. i guess i can try to get a different head unit. couldnt i just see how it sounds at first and if i dont like it i will change it out. k and that is the pic of it. well let me know

[Scarrell]

yes always see how it sounds to you first, that is all that matters... you can power your speakers off your cd player if you wish.. for an amp for your subwoofers.. try to find one around 800rms since they are "400rms subs" and please do not look at the max power look at the RMS as stated or "continous power handling"

please refer to the others Topics below yours for head unit recommendations. you could also read the other topics

[cyb593]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...me=STRK:MEWA:IT

this is the amp i thinkin about?? will this work for my subs and for my head unit and speakers?? if i buy 2 of these or what kind of rms will i need for head unit and speakers??

[Scarrell]

that amp will work fine for your subwoofers, but i dont think you are even too sure what the basic steps in car audio are... go to www.bcae1.com and www.the12volt.com these sites can help you in the basics of car audio.

This post has been edited by Scarrell: Mar 10, 2005 - 7:34 PM

[nObOdy]

Dude - stop while you can with the audobahn - i work at best buy.. dealt with car audio and ive had nothing but trouble with them

Keep your subs, since you've already bought them , keep your deck - its probably not too bad - it is not an icon deck and they are not known for their superior sounding head units but it will do JUST fine. no need to spend money unless you have to

The amp your looking for, for those quality of subwoofers doesnt need to be a fosgate - though that's what id recommend look into a sony x1000 it does very nice power though its not flashey nor is it top of the line i picked mine up for 200 dollars and it did great for what i wanted - provided powerfull bass. till someone stole it that is but thats a different story.
Your subwoofers may tell you that they can handle 800 rms combined
but thats bull**** - its very rare to find speakers that acutally output their recommended bass. in fact i bet they probably output 200-300 rms
not their stated 400 rms, or if they do 400rms they would blow at that output and anyways it does not neccesarily matter - a friend of mine has 2 15 inch audiobahns with a 4000 watt amp
and my ex 1000watt sony amp with no name Qpower subwoofers (rated at 1000 wat max each) 10 inches kicked and sounded MUCH better than his.
SO
DONT buy that audiobahn amp.. they suck really - Power is a very important part of your soundsystem - it is where people **** up the most - they go for the good speakers but the SYSTEM quality is where its at you cant skimp and expect good results..
if you want any other model info just ask.. sadly i know them..
Oh yea
as for powering your 4 speakers off the amp dont do it unless you buy a 4 channell amp. there is no point the 50 watts your getting out of your deck will be more than enough
try it and see if you want more if you do post back and ill tell you how to do it. tis not difficult but it could take some time.
anyhow if you do have any other questions just give me a holler.
nobody65@gmail.com
later
nobody

[Scarrell]

"but thats bull**** - its very rare to find speakers that acutally output their recommended bass. in fact i bet they probably output 200-300 rms" i hope that you are referring to Audiobahn and other cheap crap... because that is completely untrue otherwise... also stay away from Sony... its cheap also.. barely gets the job done... yes you Should stay away from Audiobahn.. their products are basically big paperweights.... for $200 you can pick up a better amp... as i said ... PLEASE REFER TO THE OTHER TOPICS. for help.. the Search option is your friend... also you are better off getting a new cd player.. Aiwa isnt all that great... if you want to keep it then that is fine.. car audio isnt cheap.. think twice buy once... no need to go cheap and the stuff you bought fail within a year or sooner.. save your money.. no need to say "im not rich" or something... you can save your money like i and the rest have... it pays to Pay for good quality products.. also his deck isnt going to put out 50x4 or whatever it claims.. cd players dont put out that much.. they do however put out around 12 - 30rms..... for better clarity and imaging.... this is just your beginning system... systems come and go, but if you do it right the first time and take the time to learn everything, you will be good to go in the future and wont have to worry about getting ripped off... its always funny to walk into a car audio store and hear someone tell me that this ???? 12" sub is the "f#cking best out" and he cant tell me why.. or what the cf of the ported boxes they have.. or if they are tuned... i do everything myself...... anyway..... thats all i have i guess... let us know what you are going to do... any question ask away!!!

aim: Scarr3ll
msn: jared_s_c@hotmail.com

[nObOdy]

"but thats bull**** - its very rare to find speakers that acutally output their recommended bass. in fact i bet they probably output 200-300 rms" i hope that you are referring to Audiobahn and other cheap crap... because that is completely untrue otherwise... also stay away from Sony... its cheap also.. barely gets the job done... yes you Should stay away from Audiobahn.. their products are basically big paperweights.... for $200 you can pick up a better amp... as i said ... PLEASE REFER TO THE OTHER TOPICS. for help.. the Search option is your friend... also you are better off getting a new cd player.. Aiwa isnt all that great... if you want to keep it then that is fine.. car audio isnt cheap.. think twice buy once... no need to go cheap and the stuff you bought fail within a year or sooner.. save your money.. no need to say "im not rich" or something... you can save your money like i and the rest have... it pays to Pay for good quality products..  also his deck isnt going to put out 50x4 or whatever it claims.. cd players dont put out that much.. they do however put out around 12 - 30rms..... for better clarity and imaging.... this is just your beginning system... systems come and go, but if you do it right the first time and take the time to learn everything, you will be good to go in the future and wont have to worry about getting ripped off... its always funny to walk into a car audio store and hear someone tell me that this ???? 12" sub is the "f#cking best out" and he cant tell me why.. or what the cf of the ported boxes they have.. or if they are tuned... i do everything myself...... anyway..... thats all i have i guess... let us know what you are going to do... any question ask away!!!

aim: Scarr3ll
msn: jared_s_c@hotmail.com
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Yea i was talking audiobahns and such (crap thats sold at best buy is mostly like that as well, lightning audio and such)
He isnt looking to spend **** loads of money on this system im sure he will be more than pleased with the set up i recommended him - or as i said there are many other options - a lot of people dont like sony - and whats funny is that they arent that bad - unless i got a unusually good one - i had a sony deck and a sony amp and sony xplods till it all got stolen and it sounded pretty damned good for a total of 400 dollars for it all.