RWD Celica, Swapping Supra drivetrain into Celica Options

[darksecret]

I know some might flame me for this but I was doing some research and the Supra is almost the same size as the Celica, wheelbase is only around 23mm apart and the width hopfully rotor to rotor (still need to get exact measurement) is only 98mm apart. the width wont be much of a problem due to the flare on the rear fenders and length can be overcome by a custom bellhousing that will be required. I got the idea from the Top Secret Supra. I know the Getrag will be a tight fit but it might be possible to do this without cutting the firewall. I'm know most of the parts I need and I know how RWD vehicles are set up so that is covered, I also have a live in welder (uncle) so fab work isn't an issue. Some might think this is highly impractical and they're right but it's a great concept that I will pursue. I'm going to hit up Supra forums and try to get more measurements for the drivetrain, etc. If anyone that can help with research it will be appreciated. Anything will help but I could use shifter placement, 3S-GTE width pully to output shaft and Getrag input shaft length. As I pursue this project I will post what I can and if it bombs at least there will be information for any other brave soul that wants to take this on.

[Blakout16]

im not gonna flame, but gl... if it goes thru. that'll be totally hott.

[macavely]

ok i'm going to say this IT CAN BE DONE .... just take ur time and do ur home work on everything both the supra and celi ... u'll need alot of custom work .. but still doable... good luck ..

[darksecret]

Im waiting on a post from Curt at the Supra Store about the 6 speed. I already know the cost of the Getrag and what is required for it to work I just need top to bottom, width and input to output measurements

[Coomer]

The Supra's tranny is pretty big. You will have to cut the firewall. Good luck! I want to see someone complete this project.

[Digndoug]

I would like to see this too, but why not make a rear wheel drive with the 3s-gte, thats should cut back a lot of extra time work engery money fabbing.. just a thought?

I think a rwd celi is a rwd celi.. An the 3s-gte would make a lil more sence.

[jgreening]

I would like to see this too, but why not make a rear wheel drive with the 3s-gte, thats should cut back a lot of extra time work engery money fabbing.. just a thought?

I think a rwd celi is a rwd celi.. An the 3s-gte would make a lil more sence.
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How do you propose getting the rear wheels to spin from a horizontally mounted motor?

[Digndoug]

I would like to see this too, but why not make a rear wheel drive with the 3s-gte, thats should cut back a lot of extra time work engery money fabbing.. just a thought?

I think a rwd celi is a rwd celi.. An the 3s-gte would make a lil more sence.
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How do you propose getting the rear wheels to spin from a horizontally mounted motor?
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haha, yes i guess i over looked that.. thinking more use the awd tranny. but NM

I think if you want a rwd car, get one thats stock.

[Coomer]

You could use the 3S-GTE coupled with an Altezza tranny. Then you'd have more room, since the 3S-GTE is quite a bit smaller.

[lagos]

supra parts wont work... the motor and trans are just too damn big. you best bet would be to source a rear diff and driveshaft from an alltrac and try to custom mount that

[darksecret]

supra parts wont work... the motor and trans are just too damn big. you best bet would be to source a rear diff and driveshaft from an alltrac and try to custom mount that
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When did I say I would use a 2JZ, good motor but I know its too big.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Mar 14, 2005 - 8:17 PM

[darksecret]

I am getting the idea for this project from the Top Secret Supra. The biggest problem I think I will have is with mounts. The TS Supra had enough room for a 3SGTE and the radiator to lay flat, so the 3S might fit.

[playr158]

yea i want to do this project eventually good stuff that your goin for it
don't listen to people who say "its too big" "just get a RWD car"

but yea 3sgte altezza tranny and you'll be gravy should be really hot just make sure everything is perfect square

[darksecret]

What kind of HP and TQ can the Altezza transmission handle. Getrag is 1200HP and the only true failures are age and missed shifts.

[darksecret]

The Supra's tranny is pretty big. You will have to cut the firewall. Good luck! I want to see someone complete this project. :)
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I need to check the slope of the bellhousing to see how much to cut but i've run driveshaft tunnels before and seeing that the Celica already has one I just need to check the feed from the firewall to the tunnel.

[darksecret]

As a note im from charlotte and yes I couldnt pass inspection with a set up this wild, but it doesn't take much to get this registered in South Carolina.

[orvillescelica]

I dont think that you will be able to fit the 6 speed trans in without a lot of cutting and banging. Even SC300 guys have a lot of problems getting a getrag to fit, and there car is based on the Supra frame. Maybe try their 5 speed trans. But then again, there is the question Jay brought up. Interesting project, if you do attmept it keep us up to date

[Shigexile]

man... i was thinking the same, RWD Celica... Well good luck!

[CheesyLobster]

I want to see someone actually try this. People say that its impossible or impractical, but really, if you did it, you would be the only one in the world! That right there makes it worth it. Go for it, and good luck!

[Kwanza26]

I really really hate these topics... because 90-99% of the time, the people who start these topics... don't know what it takes and don't have what it takes. Here are some simple ones... What rear end? What rear suspension? What about the steering rack? Engine? Trans? Reinforcement? Subframe? Crossmembers? Wiring?

Many people have already "claimed" to be doing RWD conversions, and many are gonna try and "prove me wrong"... but so far... I'm something like 100%... so you're just another new name on a long list of dreamers... How old are you anyways?