brake rotor Options

[st_celica_killer]

hey is there any good front brake rotor out there for our celica st ?????

[Coomer]

Brembo makes OEM replacements. Or you could use bigger rotors for a GT along with the GT calipers.

[macavely]

u can get soem cross drilled slotted ones on ebay .. a while back there was a thread about those ebay rotors everyone that had them liked them..... or u could just do what coomer said.... if u wanted to u could get a 7th gen big break kit....

[shid]

Don't get cross drilled and slotted, you'll lose braking power. Choose cross drilled, or slotted- not that you'll see gains with either. And all the ones on ebay are just ebay drilled, not professionally made.

[BLINKYxMUNKEY]

www.irotors.com has rotors for are car.

[x_itchy_b_x]

yeah i was reading cross drilled are stupid.

Read up and make ur own opinion

This post has been edited by x_itchy_b_x: Mar 18, 2005 - 10:56 AM

[shin]

i have brembo cross drilled and slotted rotors for front SP rotors for rear. and i love it. it does provide better stopping power. maybe it's just me.

[st_celica_killer]

so how sure are you that the 7th gen celica front slott brake would fit on our 6th gen or is it better off finding a whole complete set from a 7th ??? what about the 7th gen celiac gts back dis brake would that work back dis brake conversion work on our 6th gen st ??????

[Coomer]

i have brembo cross drilled and slotted rotors for front SP rotors for rear. and i love it. it does provide better stopping power.    maybe it's just me.
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I'm almost positive that Brembo doesn't make cross drilled and slotted rotors for the Celica ST, and that they only make OEM replacements. I'm guessing that you got them off of eBay?

so how sure are you that the 7th gen celica front slott brake would fit on our 6th gen or is it better off finding a  whole complete set from a 7th ??? what about the 7th gen celiac gts back dis brake would that work back dis brake conversion work on our 6th gen st ??????
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http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8498&hl=brakes

[shin]

mine's a GT, i got them both from my local dealer. the SP rotors and the Brembo. but come to think about it... my rotors does look like those ebay jump off... but hey... who cares as long as the look good and works well.

This post has been edited by shin: Mar 18, 2005 - 4:04 PM

[Kwanza26]

so how sure are you that the 7th gen celica front slott brake would fit on our 6th gen or is it better off finding a  whole complete set from a 7th ??? what about the 7th gen celiac gts back dis brake would that work back dis brake conversion work on our 6th gen st ??????
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Fronts are basically the same as the 6th gen GT, which are almost an inch in diameter larger than the ST rotors (01+ Celicas... 00 Celica GT's had smaller front brakes). The 7th gen rears will NOT work... these are Double wishbone rears and will not fit. Why think about 7th gen's rears when you can use any Celica 5 lug rear disc from 1986-1999...

[shid]

Shin, its actually physically impossible for you to get better braking power out of them; they're surface space is reduced too much by the slots and the holes- now if you replaced the pads, or your old rotors were going out.. then you might feel a difference; but a stock rotor vs cross and drilled, stock rotor would win.

[shin]

hmmm.. you might be right...when i replaced the stock rotors cause they were really old and rusty, i got new pads as well.. maybe that's why i felt that it was better.. guess i'll have to reconsider new rotors again.

[st_celica_killer]

would these fit on our celica st??????? looks sexio....

http://www.ceramicbrakes.com/productphotos...ica/trd_3-4.jpg

http://www.stoptech.com/bigbrakes/toyota.htm

check these pix out??

http://www.stoptech.com/productphotos/celica/celica.htm

This post has been edited by st_celica_killer: Mar 19, 2005 - 2:42 PM

[Coomer]

would these fit on our celica st??????? looks sexio.... 

http://www.ceramicbrakes.com/productphotos...ica/trd_3-4.jpg

http://www.stoptech.com/bigbrakes/toyota.htm

check these pix out??

http://www.stoptech.com/productphotos/celica/celica.htm
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Are you serious? Read this thread and the links in it and you'll find out.

[AndyST4]

Shin, its actually physically impossible for you to get better braking power out of them; they're surface space is reduced too much by the slots and the holes- now if you replaced the pads, or your old rotors were going out.. then you might feel a difference; but a stock rotor vs cross and drilled, stock rotor would win.
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drilled and slotted rotor do improve braking and brake fade because as you brake a gas builds up between your pads and rotor and the slots or holes provide a place for this gas to escape so your pads and rotor can have better contact

[Kwanza26]

drilled and slotted rotor do improve braking and brake fade because as you brake a gas builds up between your pads and rotor and the slots or holes provide a place for this gas to escape so your pads and rotor can have better contact
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That argument may hold true if you're using brake pads for 30 years ago... Read ANYWHERE from retailers that sell slotted/drilled rotors and they WILL NOT say those rotors are for better performance. With today's compound brake pads... there is NO reason to run drilled or slotted rotors from a braking performance perspective. There may be minor heat dissapation differences and such, but braking improvements are lacking.

[shid]

drilled and slotted rotor do improve braking and brake fade because as you brake a gas builds up between your pads and rotor and the slots or holes provide a place for this gas to escape so your pads and rotor can have better contact
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drilled and slotted rotor do improve braking

pads and rotor can have better contact

No, they don't. There's too little surface area- there's no rotor for the pads to make contact WITH. One or the other has the ability to improve braking, as you state. With their powers combined, they don't do jack ****. Not to mention that no one here on this site has brakes powerful enough to merit even drilled or slotted rotors.

[GT4WRC]

Just been having a similar 'discussion' on a Toyota forum here in NZ.

FACT - Drilled rotors were developed purely to reduce the unsprung weight on race cars. They were NOT designed to improve braking.

Slotted rotors were developed when pads still contained asbestos. With the bonding agents used in the pads, they produced a gas when heated up which formed a 'barrier' between the pad and rotor - leading to what is known as brake fade. The slots allow the gas to escape while also helping to 'de-glaze' the pad surface.

Aftermarket drilled rotors are NOT a good idea to use on road cars. The holes not only reduce the surface contact area, but due to the drilling of the rotor, they are prone to cracking big time. Get the rotors mega hot and the problem comes when they coold down. Due to the holes, the rotors cools down at a different rate across the surface which leads to a huge amount of stress. This can, and often does, lead to cracks apperaing between the holes rendering the rotor unsafe.
Only way around this is to ensure that the holes are formed at the same time as the casting process - such as with the likes of Wilwood and many of the top end markert cars. The cracks can still happen, but less likely.

In summary, on a road car, drilled and or slotted rotors are purely for the 'bling' effect. You can get the same effect for less $ by getting some decent pads in the first place.

Slotted/drilled rotors are really only for when you start to get serious about going fast - not something that you can do legally on the road anyway.
Gary

[GT4WRC]

Not to mention that no one here on this site has brakes powerful enough to merit even drilled or slotted rotors.

Some of us do
I'm going for slotted rotors next as I compete in the odd road rally. Despite some TRD pads and race brake fluid, I still managed to get the pads to glaze over during my last rally.

My Rover rally car will be getting 331.7mm rotors with Wilwood 6 pot calipers up from with 300mm at the rear with twin pots. Combine those with some seriously sticky DOT approved slicks and you'll have some mega stopping power - especially in a car that will weight around 1000kg (and have 300bhp @ wheels)
Gary