New Mobil 1 Synthetics, 5k, 7.5k, 15k Options

[Sev408]

I dont know if any of you remember but i was preaching about the 15k oil about a year ago. Most likely you dont cause im no big shot on here. But anyway, my uncle works for them and told me about but the government wouldnt let Mobil sell the product because it would put other companies out of business.

Well they did it finally and im switching my parents oil over to the 15k next oil change. even better is its around the same price as regular 3k oil.


I highly recommend these new oils, especially if my uncle who is up in the ranks says they do what they really do.

[Coomer]

I'll admit, I was skeptical and wrong.

Do you know if the oil can last that long if the engine is ran hard, or are those mileage guidelines for the people who aren't too hard on their cars. If it's around the same price as the regular Mobil1 synthetic, then I think I'll try the 15k stuff, and change it out at 3,000 miles, and see how it looks.

Also, you still need to change the filter every 3,000 miles, right?

[Sev408]

about the filter im unsure about that, but if you had to change it every 3k then you would end up dumping the oil anyway. Im assuming the oil filter will keep working.

according to my uncle the original mobil 1 synthetic could be run up to 20k on normal driving conditions. thats when the government wouldnt let them sell the product.

now according to my uncle you can drive how ever you want and the oil should be fine.

i would love to throw this stuff in my car but my head gasket is leaking about a gallon every month, so it would last for me. i need to change that out first.

edit: i was gonna say if you only make it 12k on your oil coom cause you drive hard, hell thats 9k more then on regular oil. so its not a big loss plus its 3 less times you have to change your oil.

This post has been edited by Sev408: Mar 25, 2005 - 1:49 AM

[Jeremy1210]

a guy I work for was telling me about mobil synthetic oil and how the govt was trying to cover up mobils numbers

[97GTinKC]

Thats pretty funny, Amsoil has been recommending extended drains (25,000 miles or 1 year) with their synthetics for over 30 years,,, their newer Series 2000 oils is 35,000 miles/1year, longer with bypass filter and oil analysis) Mobil needs to get their story straight.

[97GTinKC]

From an Amsoil press release:

ExxonMobil Follows AMSOIL into Extended Drain Market

Motor oil technology has gradually progressed since the days of the earliest automobiles. In those days, standard motor oil drain intervals were between 500 and 1000 miles, and motorists had to switch viscosity grades with the changing of the seasons. The development of oil filtration and additive technology in the 1930s allowed drain intervals to increase to 2000 and later 3000 miles, while the development of viscosity modifiers in the 1940s allowed the formulation of multi-grade oils that could be used in both hot and cold temperatures.

According to AMSOIL Vice President Alan Amatuzio, the introduction of ExxonMobil extended drain oil is long overdue. "While AMSOIL INC. has certainly proven that extended drain intervals provide valuable benefits," said Amatuzio, "the fact that ExxonMobil is finally saying the same thing brings the message to even more people. ExxonMobil's move is significant in that more consumers will now recognize AMSOIL as the pioneer in extended drain oils and will benefit from the advanced technology we introduced 33 years ago."

ExxonMobil recently announced a new line of motor oils recommended for extended drain intervals.
It was only a matter of time before another company followed the path forged by AMSOIL over 30 years ago. Some motorists may recall that Mobil also followed AMSOIL into the synthetic motor oil business, introducing its synthetic motor oil several years after AMSOIL. The technology for extended oil drains is obviously available, but until now, the major oil companies have had other agendas. Marc Graham, who is president of Pennzoil-Quaker State-owned Jiffy Lube International, was quoted in a 2001 Lubricants World interview as saying, “At [PQS] we use a number internally that if we [shortened the drain interval] by 100 miles [for each car serviced], it would mean an additional $20 million in revenue for the company.” He also explained that “if we could move our customers to get one more oil change per year, it’s worth $294 million for the oil change alone and $441 million in revenue, when you include the ancillary products and services customers typically buy along with the oil change.”

Mobil backed off 25,000 mile oil change intervals in 1974.
Mobil briefly recommended 25,000 mile oil drains in the 1970’s. It’s not difficult to figure out who they were trying to compete with. AMSOIL was the only other company offering synthetic motor oils and recommended 25,000 mile drain intervals. However, it may be that because vehicle manufacturers weren’t yet comfortable with extended drain intervals, Mobil retracted its extended drain recommendations and simply recommended motorists follow the intervals specified in their vehicle’s owners manual. Of course, traditional oil change recommendations also allow Mobil and other motor oil companies to sell a lot more oil. Everyone wins but the customer.

AMSOIL stands apart from the competition.
AMSOIL has always formulated its products to be the absolute best, continually researching ways to make its already outstanding products even better. Other oil companies, however, are beholden to shareholders, and one could speculate that their incentive is to maximize profit. They formulate oils down to a price, rather than formulating them to be the best they can be. Then, they price their products to maximize profits. In addition, AMSOIL has 33 years of experience blending premium extended drain synthetic oils. That’s 33 years worth of proven performance in the field.

A close look at ExxonMobil’s new long drain motor oil line reveals that two are petroleum based, one is a synthetic blend and only one, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, is a full synthetic. The petroleum based products are recommended for 5000 mile drains, the synthetic blend for 7500 mile drains and Extended Performance for 15,000 mile drains. However, a look at the fine print reveals that ExxonMobil is still recommending drivers follow the oil drain recommendations listed in their owners manuals during the warranty period. AMSOIL synthetic motor oils are recommended for 25,000 mile or one year drain intervals in both new and older vehicles. The AMSOIL warranty stands behind this recommendation.

AMSOIL has recommended 25,000 mile/one year drain intervals since 1972.
AMSOIL delivers the highest quality lubricants on the market. It’s the AMSOIL identity, and it’s what customers expect. Al Amatuzio coined the phrase “extended drain interval,” and from the beginning, AMSOIL synthetic motor oils have been formulated for extended drain intervals.

Vehicle manufacturers are pushing for extended oil drain intervals.
Vehicle manufacturers in Europe have been recommending extended oil drains for years. In fact, the average drain interval in Europe is 10,000 miles. Vehicle manufacturers in the United States are definitely coming around to extended oil drains as well. Most owners manuals from recent model vehicles recommend 5000 to 7500 mile oil drain intervals. In addition, oil life monitors have become increasingly common on today’s vehicles, allowing and encouraging motorists to increase drain intervals up to 12,000 miles, even when using conventional oil. Vehicles equipped with an oil life monitor no longer recommend oil changes based solely on mileage. The system measures engine operational data such as temperature, revolutions and speed to determine when the oil is nearing the end of its life.

The motor oil industry is faced with the extended oil drain interval issue.
The success of oil life monitors has posed a threat to motor oil companies who insist oil must be changed every 3000 miles. It becomes increasingly difficult to maintain this position when vehicle manufacturers are recommending significantly longer intervals with the use of their oil monitoring systems. This is no doubt one of the reasons ExxonMobil finally introduced a line of long drain motor oils.

AMSOIL products are available for less.
The suggested retail price of the top oil in ExxonMobil’s new line, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, is $5.79 to $5.99 a quart. That’s right in line with AMSOIL 5W-30 and 10W-30, which retail for $5.95 a quart. By registering as an AMSOIL Preferred Customer, customers pay only $4.65 a quart, and even less when purchasing by the case.
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[playr158]

i'm defenitly a moblie1 fan even if my motor has a nice lil blowby issue

but once i get the issue fixed i'm switching every fluid i can over to
REDLINE
in dyno testing on a STI redline freed up about 10HP by just changing all the STI's fluids with their products!

[Drocay]

I use all mobile1 synthetic, i love it. my boy uses Redline in his sr20 he said it made it run smoother after using the stuff.

[1bwilson]

i'm defenitly a moblie1 fan even if my motor has a nice lil blowby issue

but once i get the issue fixed i'm switching every fluid i can over to
REDLINE
in dyno testing on a STI redline freed up about 10HP by just changing all the STI's fluids with their products!
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Someones has been reading this months Car mags........

[Sev408]

hahah, yeah my uncle talked to me again about this. as stated government wanted to keep the oil hush hush a while back. my uncle said he runs his regular mobil 1 for 5-7k miles as it is and just changes the oil filter.


i did forget to mention that, change the filter every 3-5k but leave the oil. just top off what is taken out when the filter is removed. Because its above the oil pan very little oil will be lost.


also about Fram Oil Filters, with mobil 1 you dont need to worry about them. they do a perfectly fine considering Mobil 1 coats the internals of the motor so you have a cleaner startup then others.

This post has been edited by Sev408: Mar 27, 2005 - 12:48 PM

[Mr_E]

This is something I've never understood about the US.

Why the hell do you guys change oil so often? On high powered cars that are driven hard I can understand it.

On big lazy engines, cruising on the freeway, I don't.

Fully synth is good for 20K or so. It really is. So's the filter. Hell, half decent mineral oil will do 7K without too many issues.

BMW/Mercades etc use variable service intervals. The computer tells you when you need an oil change. 12K is normal. 15K is not uncommon.

If fully synth comes out of mine every 4.5K looking good as new, and turbos are very very hard on oil, a 5S is going to get 12-15K on fully synth with no problems at all.

I suspect it's fabulous marketing by the oil companies in the US......

[popstar]

Da. interesting !

i just changed my oil after 12000 KM 'Castrol XTX' 5-30
it had lost it's colour but it wasn't black !!!!!

and yeah it's totally synth' oil,
i was told ever 10k would be good time to change oil.......... whats that in real time ! about 6.5 k
and that's the oil toyota recomend over here for a GS GTE,
about $30 to do the engine !

if our cars are serviced as the manual says (every 6k miles) why change the oil inbetween ?????

i'm with Mr E on this one, good advertising or propaganded, just like with Russia !

[Mr_E]

if our cars are serviced as the manual says (every 6k miles) why change the oil inbetween ?????

My manual says every 9K for a service.

I change the oil at mid service intervals as well...

[popstar]

Hey Mr.E

you got a copy of the original owners manual with your car ?

or just the service manual ?

my service manuals in Japanese (i might be in the wrong section)
12k KM (9k miles) would sound better and no owners hand book.................

ahhh but you have a JDM too, Da ?

[Supersprynt]

The capitalism brainwashes everybody into thinking 3000 miles. I been using Mobil 1 for 3 yrs now and I change it every 5000 miles. Now to some ppl its alot but I guess its nothing compared to over there.

It sucks being lied to but that just means you can only trust one person and thats yourself.

[Drocay]

yea i change my moblie 1 at between 5-6 and its been fine.

[Mr_E]

  ahhh but you have a JDM too, Da ?
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Yup. But I have a UK manual from when it was imported.