my 5SFTE turbo project, 300+whp PG 23!!!!!!! |
my 5SFTE turbo project, 300+whp PG 23!!!!!!! |
Apr 13, 2007 - 3:14 PM |
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QUOTE(shin @ Apr 13, 2007 - 8:45 AM) [snapback]546376[/snapback] ya really need to teflon tape those. or ya be seeing oil leaks everywhere lol. manny had his over where the battery was and i had mine where the washer fluid tube is. that's a shorter route if ya don't have ABS. what kit did you use for your relocation kit? I notice your profile says you used s summit kit. -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Apr 13, 2007 - 3:54 PM |
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he actually didnt buy the "kit" he just bought the 2 halfs they sell seperately, he got the type that just screws onto the block and has the two fittings sticking straight out.
it sucked. didnt it, vin? -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Apr 13, 2007 - 4:16 PM |
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Apr 13, 2007 - 8:54 PM) [snapback]546485[/snapback] he actually didnt buy the "kit" he just bought the 2 halfs they sell seperately, he got the type that just screws onto the block and has the two fittings sticking straight out. it sucked. didnt it, vin? it realllllly did. should've bought the one you did lol. but hey.. someone gotta do the testing to know which works best. we learn from our mistakes lol. -------------------- |
Jun 12, 2007 - 4:48 PM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT.
wow, 2 years, 5sfte powered. i totally forgot about the anniversary. lol ok so, here we are, 2 years later. what have we learned? 5sfe + boost = good just gotta build it right! so, prolly the MOST asked question i get PM'd is: do you have a parts list? well, technicly, no. i have a "basic" list, that every 5sfte owner should modify to fit theyre own needs, or plans. the idea is this: think you see somthing you could make work better? DO IT! if we keep refining the setup, it WILL just keep getting better and more reliable. ok so here we go: the basics: 3sgte (gen 2) exhaust manifold ct-26 twin entry turbo, (from a 90-93 celica alltrac, or 90+ mr2), with oil and water lines stock 3sgte DP (or aftermarket) 3sgte (gen 2) oil pan, preferably from an alltrac, some of the mr2 ones have the oil level sensor, which will need to be blocked off = more work at the MINIMUM, i would say 390cc injectors, i am currently running 460cc injectors from an rx-7, the part # is in my profile (just click the screenname ) a decent front mount intercooler, (no, a stock alltrac, mr2, or DSM intercooler is not "decent") with associated piping, couplers and clamps blow off valve of your choice tuner toys head adapter fitting (for oil feed for turbo) (2) -3an to 1/8npt STEEL male fitting to have welded to the stock oil feed line and for tuner toys fitting ~16-18" -3an stainless braided line (for oil feed) oil filter relocation setup (kit or otherwise) various rubber hose (for water lines for turbo) with clamps SAFCII or emanage or whatever. 2 bar map sensor (alltrac 90-93 mr2T 90+) im sure im missing some stuff, this was just off the top of my head. ill add more with edits as i think of it. lol anyway, to give you an idea,of how she's running, this is a quick vid i threw together for jeff after this past weekends meet @ DWG. this is with defgeph in the other lane, running ~14-15psi, IIRC (3sgteRC swapped) -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jun 12, 2007 - 5:33 PM |
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HOLY !!!!!
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Jun 12, 2007 - 8:01 PM |
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dude..after riding in your car..im seriously wanting to turbo my car now...i think when i start workin in a months time im gonna start workin on buyin the parts for the build up. But seriously manny, your car is f*ckin quick. Its faster then my buddies Skyline GTS-T. But yea, manny, i think you have definatly sparked interest in alot of ppl to turbo their cars.
EDIT: Dont you also need a new MAP sensor to handel the extra pressure from the boost? This post has been edited by Valo666: Jun 12, 2007 - 8:05 PM |
Jun 12, 2007 - 8:25 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 26, '07 From Boston, MA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!!!!!
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Jun 12, 2007 - 9:59 PM |
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Wow, this thread is like one large ball of inspiration
happy anniversary, did yall exchange gifts? -------------------- 0111011001101001011100110111001101101001
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Jun 12, 2007 - 10:29 PM |
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QUOTE(Valo666 @ Jun 12, 2007 - 9:01 PM) [snapback]567807[/snapback] dude..after riding in your car..im seriously wanting to turbo my car now...i think when i start workin in a months time im gonna start workin on buyin the parts for the build up. But seriously manny, your car is f*ckin quick. Its faster then my buddies Skyline GTS-T. But yea, manny, i think you have definatly sparked interest in alot of ppl to turbo their cars. EDIT: Dont you also need a new MAP sensor to handel the extra pressure from the boost? yup, its all earlier in the beginning of the thread, and i forgot to add it to the list!! vissi, the celica gives me the gift of boost every day. i give it fresh oil, spark plugs ect... -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jun 13, 2007 - 1:32 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 12, '06 From Wilmington, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 45 (100%) |
QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 12, 2007 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]567758[/snapback] WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT. wow, 2 years, 5sfte powered. i totally forgot about the anniversary. lol Congrats! I can't wait for my 5sfte! it sounds like it's soo much fun to drive! QUOTE ok so here we go: the basics: 3sgte (gen 2) exhaust manifold ct-26 twin entry turbo, (from a 90-93 celica alltrac, or 90+ mr2), with oil and water lines stock 3sgte DP (or aftermarket) 3sgte (gen 2) oil pan, preferably from an alltrac, some of the mr2 ones have the oil level sensor, which will need to be blocked off = more work at the MINIMUM, i would say 390cc injectors, i am currently running 460cc injectors from an rx-7, the part # is in my profile (just click the screenname ) a decent front mount intercooler, (no, a stock alltrac, mr2, or DSM intercooler is not "decent") with associated piping, couplers and clamps blow off valve of your choice tuner toys head adapter fitting (for oil feed for turbo) (2) -3an to 1/8npt STEEL male fitting to have welded to the stock oil feed line and for tuner toys fitting ~16-18" -3an stainless braided line (for oil feed) oil filter relocation setup (kit or otherwise) various rubber hose (for water lines for turbo) with clamps SAFCII or emanage or whatever. 2 bar map sensor (alltrac 90-93 mr2T 90+) fuel pump NGK BKR7 spark plugs custom exhaust and muffler and such gauges oil restrictor to limit oil flow to turbo QUOTE various rubber hose (for water lines for turbo) with clamps Speaking of which, I'm kinda having a hard time finding some T's to tee into my coolant lines with. what did you use? also, does it matter which hose from the throttle body goes to which line to the turbo? (like is one a send and one a return that shouldn't be mix-matched?) -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Jun 13, 2007 - 2:28 AM |
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Congrats Manny! you Kick as s!
I had a few quick questions for you, I plan on getting water injection soon, and later go to ATS for their ct27 Turbo/ECU Tune combo... my goal being between 260-270whp. Is their kit worth it? i saw earlier in one of your posts that given a 2nd chance you woulda stayed with ct-26? I would get it dyno tuned as well.... or should i just rebuild my turbo and look for power elsewhere? Thanks For any help, and keep up the good work |
Jun 13, 2007 - 5:22 AM |
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well when i said that, i just meant cost wise.
the ct-27 is expensive, and unless you have a GOOD core, gets even more expensive. on a 3sgte, its a whole diffrent story. gains are larger, cause it can untilize the extra air better. good luck -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jun 13, 2007 - 1:27 PM |
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QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 12, 2007 - 11:32 PM) [snapback]567923[/snapback] Speaking of which, I'm kinda having a hard time finding some T's to tee into my coolant lines with. what did you use? also, does it matter which hose from the throttle body goes to which line to the turbo? (like is one a send and one a return that shouldn't be mix-matched?) -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Jun 13, 2007 - 1:49 PM |
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Congrats Manny. 5sfte for life well sorta, it will always have a warm place in my heart lol. you prove that if you buy good parts and dont skimp on a good turbo the 5sfte is mean machine, especially with that e-manage, instead of the primitive safc that everyone drooled over years ago. the whole 5sfte idea has definitely evolved.
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Jun 13, 2007 - 3:22 PM |
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QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 13, 2007 - 6:27 PM) [snapback]568071[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 12, 2007 - 11:32 PM) [snapback]567923[/snapback] Speaking of which, I'm kinda having a hard time finding some T's to tee into my coolant lines with. what did you use? also, does it matter which hose from the throttle body goes to which line to the turbo? (like is one a send and one a return that shouldn't be mix-matched?) manny bought his Brass T's from Pep boys. i forgot the size though.. i'll have to look it up. -------------------- |
Jun 13, 2007 - 9:21 PM |
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QUOTE(shin @ Jun 13, 2007 - 1:22 PM) [snapback]568146[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 13, 2007 - 6:27 PM) [snapback]568071[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 12, 2007 - 11:32 PM) [snapback]567923[/snapback] Speaking of which, I'm kinda having a hard time finding some T's to tee into my coolant lines with. what did you use? also, does it matter which hose from the throttle body goes to which line to the turbo? (like is one a send and one a return that shouldn't be mix-matched?) manny bought his Brass T's from Pep boys. i forgot the size though.. i'll have to look it up. I think the size is 3/8". I replaced one of those coolant hoses connecting to the throttle body and it was 3/8 and I put a piece of 3/8" hose over one of the turbo coolant lines and it fit. -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Jun 13, 2007 - 9:56 PM |
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QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 13, 2007 - 10:21 PM) [snapback]568276[/snapback] QUOTE(shin @ Jun 13, 2007 - 1:22 PM) [snapback]568146[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 13, 2007 - 6:27 PM) [snapback]568071[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 12, 2007 - 11:32 PM) [snapback]567923[/snapback] Speaking of which, I'm kinda having a hard time finding some T's to tee into my coolant lines with. what did you use? also, does it matter which hose from the throttle body goes to which line to the turbo? (like is one a send and one a return that shouldn't be mix-matched?) manny bought his Brass T's from Pep boys. i forgot the size though.. i'll have to look it up. I think the size is 3/8". I replaced one of those coolant hoses connecting to the throttle body and it was 3/8 and I put a piece of 3/8" hose over one of the turbo coolant lines and it fit. yea, iirc it was 3/8 hose. vins right, i got the t's from pepboys. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Jun 13, 2007 - 10:52 PM |
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Thanks for the help
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Jun 14, 2007 - 1:33 AM |
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Jun 13, 2007 - 7:56 PM) [snapback]568291[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 13, 2007 - 10:21 PM) [snapback]568276[/snapback] QUOTE(shin @ Jun 13, 2007 - 1:22 PM) [snapback]568146[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 13, 2007 - 6:27 PM) [snapback]568071[/snapback] QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 12, 2007 - 11:32 PM) [snapback]567923[/snapback] Speaking of which, I'm kinda having a hard time finding some T's to tee into my coolant lines with. what did you use? also, does it matter which hose from the throttle body goes to which line to the turbo? (like is one a send and one a return that shouldn't be mix-matched?) manny bought his Brass T's from Pep boys. i forgot the size though.. i'll have to look it up. I think the size is 3/8". I replaced one of those coolant hoses connecting to the throttle body and it was 3/8 and I put a piece of 3/8" hose over one of the turbo coolant lines and it fit. yea, iirc it was 3/8 hose. vins right, i got the t's from pepboys. hmm... at my local auto parts stores, I've seen plastic t's for vacuum lines, but not brass t's. I'll try to find some again I guess -------------------- 94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold 88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold 00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car 95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive |
Jun 14, 2007 - 9:34 AM |
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QUOTE(6strngs @ Jun 14, 2007 - 2:33 AM) [snapback]568342[/snapback] hmm... at my local auto parts stores, I've seen plastic t's for vacuum lines, but not brass t's. I'll try to find some again I guess At my parts store (CAP) there are different drawers etc, and the brass ones are with the fuel fittings etc. maybe check there? This post has been edited by jcbass7: Jun 14, 2007 - 9:35 AM |
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