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 Apr 4, 2005 - 3:15 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Aug 18, '04 From NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%)  |
hey i was just curious. i was roaming around ebay and found the beams 3sge black top and i was wondering if these would drop right in and bolt up to the gt tranny.
ebay motor 1 ebay motor 2 (i dont think this ones a 3sge) i need enlightenment. |
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Apr 4, 2005 - 3:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Mechanically yes, electrically...i'd have nightmares.
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Apr 4, 2005 - 3:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You're better off getting the BEAMS 3S-GE that came in the ST202 Celica's.
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Apr 4, 2005 - 3:51 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
for 4grand i would go with a swap thats more documented. it would take a lot of custom work to get that motor to sit right and i wouldnt recomend it unless you have done swaps like this before.
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Apr 4, 2005 - 3:54 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 15, '02 From Vidor, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i dont know... the black top is duel vvt... sooo who know... id do it...
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Apr 4, 2005 - 4:14 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '02 From Va Team 6gc Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
if i got it i would do the clip, but that one had front end accident do u think its worth it.
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Apr 4, 2005 - 4:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From Rhode Island Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
do it, do it
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Apr 4, 2005 - 4:58 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
there will be problems no doubt!! Much harder than any 3sgte swap. But if you have the money and time i would definatly go for it. Its a BEAMS black top!!!!
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Apr 4, 2005 - 5:05 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
be original ... or be like everyone else...
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Apr 4, 2005 - 5:38 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 23, '03 From New Orleans Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(macavely @ Apr 4, 2005 - 5:05 PM) be original ... or be like everyone else... [right][snapback]266491[/snapback][/right] But after being the original someone is bound to follow 
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Apr 4, 2005 - 6:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(chucho @ Apr 4, 2005 - 5:38 PM) QUOTE(macavely @ Apr 4, 2005 - 5:05 PM) be original ... or be like everyone else... [right][snapback]266491[/snapback][/right] But after being the original someone is bound to follow [right][snapback]266507[/snapback][/right] yup thats to point...to many people on here are scared little biiootchess. and wont be the frist ones to put there foot in the water... and are even quicker to tell someone not to try something cause it hasn't been doen before... all up in the cool-aid and don't even know the flavor .. -------------------- |
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Apr 4, 2005 - 6:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 1, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
once there is an original... it will be very very very hard to be a follower with this one. The BEAMS black top is not an engine you come across very often.
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Apr 4, 2005 - 6:54 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
"fit" is a very very bad word to use. "fit" is easy... "work" is hard. The BEAMS blacktop is always from a rwd platform, so it requires a bit of work to make things work. It'll drop in and bolt up ok... satisfying the "fit" requirement, but wiring, plumbing, everything is gonna be custom.
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Apr 4, 2005 - 7:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the hard the work and great the statifaction u'll have once everthign is doen.... and hard is only messured by a preson want to do something... something could take along time to figure out but not hard to do .. just takes a while to do right...
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Apr 4, 2005 - 8:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
my theory on these never before done swaps is that if you have to ask about it, then you are not ready to do it. you can have all the people on a msg board cheering you on, but in the end its going to be you and that motor in a garage.... and you will have no one to refer to when a problem comes up.
at least with the 3s swap, if you get stuck, there will be enough people on this site that can help you finish your project. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Apr 4, 2005 - 9:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
just cause a person ask questions doesn't mean they can't do something... asking questions is how u get the answers ur looking for and if some one doesnt' have the answers.. u do what has been done by every person that has been the first to try something... and that is try it urself and find what works and doesnt. ..
with and engine swap ur not lunch the car up into space .. ur just doing a swap ... if u take ur time and learn the basics before anything else.. then how the little extras work ... u'll be fine... -------------------- |
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Apr 6, 2005 - 12:41 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
how much HP is a Beams blacktop pushing?
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Apr 6, 2005 - 12:57 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
should be the same as our is300. about 195hp at the crank, but thats just my guess.
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Apr 6, 2005 - 1:15 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i think the IS300 has more HP then the altezza ... i hope it would seeing one is a 4clynder and the other a 6 ..
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Apr 6, 2005 - 1:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(macavely @ Apr 6, 2005 - 1:15 AM) i think the IS300 has more HP then the altezza [right][snapback]267205[/snapback][/right] Yah, a massive 5HP more. |
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