I have no brakes!, Bleeding the system. Help, please! Options

[JoKeRkId613]

my brakes are gone. im not sure what's wrong with my braking system. i got 2 discs in front and 2 drums in rear. i think i have to bleed my brakes because when i press the brake pedal all the way, that crap won't brake. it'll brake somewhat but the car skids all the time. kinda scary. i know that with four discs, you have to bleed them from the rear passenger disc, then the rear driver, then the front passenger and lastly, the front driver(closest to the master cylinder). with two discs, do i go from the front passenger to the front drivers. i dont think i can bleed drum brakes, right? what do i do with the drums? i think thats the problem, that i have too much air in my brake lines. i dont think its the pads because they don't screech or anything so it dont sound like metal rubbing against metal. if anyone has any suggestions or comments that can help me to bleed the system, thatd be greatly appreciated. also, if someone can tell me the order in which to bleed the system, thatd be great too. i think its from the passenger fron to the driver front side. is this correct?

[fastgt]

sounds like air got into the lines. you need to bleed them. start from rear right, then rear left, front right, finally front left. easy as pie

to bleed them you have to loosen the little plug type bolt on the caliper ( alittle)

next press and hold the until it reaches the floor.

tighten the bolt. then pump the brakes( but do not pump harder than you usually would when you are braking)

next loosen the bolt again and let the fluid bleed out while you are holding the brake down .

if there is air in the lines it will come as bubbles then in a clean stream. once it flows smoothly that line is good to go.

do that for all sides

if that didnt make sense sorry. pm if u need help

This post has been edited by fastgt: May 18, 2005 - 4:35 PM

[JoKeRkId613]

i guess the only question i have left is if you can bleed the drum brakes. i thought u could only bleed the disc brakes. so can i bleed the drums or is that different?

[Hanyo]

yes you can bleed drums.. there is a nipple back behind the plate.

[JoKeRkId613]

this is the thing. i haven't done anything to my brakes so that theres air inside there. i do believe theres air in there, i just dont know how. any ideas?

[Hanyo]

i have a feeling its not air inside your lines..

i think its the cylinder in the drums leaking..

pull off your drum and see if there is oil all on the inside of them..

[JoKeRkId613]

Okay, so im giong to try to open the drums n crap. if theres no leakes there, what should i do? take it to a shop and do diagnostics or sumthing?

also, im painting my calipers as we speak, im spraying 2 silver base coats and 2 clear coats. i should just paint the drums while its on the car, right? o yea, im painting the drums black, before someone starts to rank on me :-)

[JoKeRkId613]

I found out the problem! I replaced my drum shoes. It eneded up being my Master Cylinder that was messed up. All that work. lol. Well, at least i got new drum shoes. the toyota master cylinder will be around 135. the ones at discount are like 60 but theyre aftermarket. adn they only have the ones with abs. so that sucks. but w.e. glad i found out the problem. thanks to everyone for their input and help!