ARRGGHH!!! Engine won't turn over!!!!, Just dropped dead.. any idea?? Options

[97GTinKC]

My 97GT did the exact same thing last fall, had about 2000 miles on new Bosch wires and Platinum+4 plugs, started it to move it, ran fine, went to move it back 2 hours later, and no start, smoked, smelled fuel. ended up having it towed to the dealer since they had just replaced the computer a few weeks before. they blamed it on the aftermarket wires and plugs, they looked just like yours, black and wet. Said there was too much resistance in the wires,,,I did check the wires when i got home with it and the bosch coil wire has about 11,000 ohms, they say that is way too much,,,whatever, its back to stock wires and plugs, runs great!
I still wonder how it fouled the plugs that bad, I also ran across an article about toyota coil problems while I was looking in to this,,,never did reach any conclusions on that...

[west_minist]

That is normal.

When buying performance parts, it must suite your car unless your are changing everything.

[NEVERSTOP]

if you gonna get plugs go with iridium - period.

Also it sounds like you might have a fuel filter problem. does the car want to turn over but just kinda chokes when you try to give it gas? if your car sits alot and only comes out on the weekends then you have gas that is sitting all week long chemically breaking up and puttin all kinda of deposits on the bottom of your gas tank which then gets pulled through the fuel filter and into you engine - that would explain why your spark plugs look the way they do. I would SERIOUSLY recomned having a mechanic change the fule filter on it as you can really mess your car up if you try and do it urself with out knoledge of how it works, not to metion the gas burns...

[pflau]

oh... YES!!! my car is running again. it WAS the spark plugs..

I wasnt gonna pay $12 per plug for the iridiums.. so I went to pepboy and they were out of stock with the nkg platinums so I went to autozone.. they had denso platinums but they only had TWO in stock.. at which point I gave up and bought a cheapo denso copper four-pack for $7.00.

gapped them and put them in today and the engine ran like new!!!!

cool!!!!!!!!!

[NEVERSTOP]

congrats

[pflau]

YES good suggestion I will change the fuel filter ASAP.. I have the service manual so I might even be able to do it myself..

as far as iridium is concerned... their main selling point is they last 120K miles... but I dont need them to last that long!!! and at $12 a plug....!!!!

[NEVERSTOP]

Thats kinda what I though about them until I got a really good price on a set and now its all I use

[Guest_Matthew_*]

12 dollars/plug really isn't that much

i know that HKS makes them for the 3s-gte for around 80/plug.

[pflau]

WTF???

80 buck a plug!!!! what they're gold plated???

[pflau]

QUOTE (97GTinKC @ Apr 17, 2003 - 9:37 PM)

I did check the wires when i got home with it and the bosch coil wire has about 11,000 ohms, they say that is way too much,,,

according to my service manual the spark plug wires should have a maximum resistance of 25Kohm..

so I doubt if your wires were too much...

[97GTinKC]

Yeah, I know, seem to remember 10k ohm per foot as being in a normal range for plug wires // I'd still like to know what they REALLY did to fix it. or why it decided to foul like that, i find it strange both of ours did it after we had started them and ran them for only a few moments to move them.


"That is normal.

When buying performance parts, it must suite your car unless your are changing everything"

The plugs are listed as replacements for the stock plugs, and the wires also are supposed to be replacements for stock, nothing really modified or performance about it.

[pflau]

the only thing "unusual" was that the week after I moved the car was very rainy and humid..