I am Confused, Why get V8's?? Options

[Guest_Matthew_*]

Like the title says, why get a mustang or camaro, firebird, etc. Unless it is like a 69 Camaro SS or something. I know a guy who works at a Chevy and Pontiac dealer. We argue like everyday about the corvette and new Pontiac GTO. They both have the 5.7 Liter V8 engine. It's like 350 Hp or something. What I don't get is why do people think that they have to have bigass mean sounding engines to get big power. I know that some of them can withhold boost by a super charger and nitrous. But I have only seen one stang that had a turbo. It was in a magazine. I guess what I don't get is why do they have bigass gas guzzling engines that produce mediocre horsepower when you can get a 2.0 Liter engine to produce more than twice of the amount that some V8's have?

Can someone explain this to me? I know that k2 works at some mustang performance place. Or maybe someone else. Maybe one of you guys can explain it to me.

Thanks

Edit: Everyone is concerned about emissions and gas usage then why do they continue to produce those cars. Honestly I know that some 4 bangers lose to V8's and V10's. But I have seen personally a Dodge Neon completly spank the shiat out of a Viper.

This post has been edited by igotta5S-FEturbo: Apr 13, 2003 - 4:33 PM

[Guest_Matthew_*]

nobody?

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[FallenHero]

People buy V8's for power. Look at it like this. You have 20k. You can buy a newer Camaro z-28 that will run easy 13's-12's, OR, you could buy an older import and make huge power out of the small engine and run 13's or 12's. Now. You have a reliable camaro big power car, or you have an old import with a transmition that wants to explode and an engine producing power it was not made to handle. Which one will last?

If I wanted big power, I'd get a V8(non-mustang) But for looks and funfactor, you gotta love compacts.

[Phat_99CeliGT]

Ya know, i really don't know??
Thats weird, cause i have 3 Stangs.

I just like them cause i grew up with Mustangs.
I know the older ones are the best IMO.
My 67 fastback has the 390 in it, my 67 coupe has a 6 cylinder in it right now(built up 289 on the way) and my 68 vert has an origional 302.

[Guest_Matthew_*]

i do kinda agree BUT celicas are reliable. i mean stock 205's are 255hp. stock V8 stangs are at what?
250 also. with the celica you have a lighter car and more power and better traction and better looks. and a more rare car.

and about your 20K idea. get a 6th gen for 5 or 6 g's buy a front/rear clip for 4500 swap in everything for anothe 4 or 5K. that's 15500 at most. then you have extra cash for stereo rims body kit etc. and some extra performance mods.

[FallenHero]

But to bring a FF car into the 13's area, it would take more than a stock 3s. And if you did too much more you would need some crazy traction control or you would just sit on the line and spin. Like I said. For a complete car I'd rather have a compact, but for speed a V8 is just plain better. (I'm speaking in terms of the straight line and top end.)

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

I can understand why people go V-8....they handle the power so much better than most 4 cylinders ever could, and they dont whine under the abuse. Its all about balls, i would love to have an old car with a V-8, theyre engines beg for more every time you lay on it.

Look at it this way for example......who would win in a tug of war, a short little muscular guy on steroids pushing himself to the brink of collapsing, or 2 dozen little girls that hardly have to try?? Thats one way to look at it, i suppose.....

[Guest_Matthew_*]

scratching head

which one is which?

all that i am saying is that 4 bangers are more efficient at the same power.

This post has been edited by igotta5S-FEturbo: Apr 13, 2003 - 7:54 PM

[Phr0z3n664]

I love compact cars with 4 bangers, but they will never truly be able to match what an 8-cylinder is capable of. they can take alot more abuse and have capability for crazy amounts of torque. I would take a car with any 300-400 series engine over a 4 cylinder. Especially a Lingenfelter 427.
There's not many good cars that have a good v8's in them besides older camaros, and Corvette Stingray 67-69, and the newest c5 and z06 vettes(z06's blow just a slightly built up LS1 engine renamed LS6, for the money C5 is definitely better, and has more aftermarket parts)

just my $0.02

[94blackst]

I love compacts too, but nothing compares to the way a nicely tuned v-8 purrs.

[Guest_Matthew_*]

screw that shiat. i bet if you bought a 98 camaro ss against a 98 st205 i wonder who will win.
i have seen a stock gt-4 beat an rx-7 twin turbo

edit: so i know that the camaro won't win.

yea the old ones are the only good ones. not the new ones.

This post has been edited by igotta5S-FEturbo: Apr 13, 2003 - 8:29 PM

[hiflytsi]

well, the only classic kind of car that I like is a GTO 67-69. God they are sexy. I got pissed that they had to put it in the XXX disaster. But I guess it really just goes back to pepsi vs. coke; the factors of which you were raised on and what your tastes are.

[zigy]

-hahahha stock 98-up Camaro SS has 320hp in it's basic trim (before dealer extras)
-those Camaros (98-up) come with "LS1 engine" which is pulled from Corvette

-Vortech/Edelbrock (supercharger/internals) have a packages for either SS or Z28
(because they have same engine, Z28 doesn't have ram-air so it's rated at 305hp)

Package 1 ($5000 - MSRP with Install @ $70/hour shop rate)

-around 500 whp

Package 2 ($8000 - MSRP with Install @ $70/hour shop rate)

-around 750 whp

Package 3 and up are not street legal

I'm sorry but no 4- banger can keep up either in Stock/Modified trim with LS1 engine

have seen Camaros/Corvettes in about 900hp

[macavely]

1 The bigger the engine the soomther the power output
2 Big engines don't die
3 The Bigger the engine the easier to work on
4 When is the last time you saw a 1000 HP L4

[ghostdog]

I don't understand why some people hate on V8s. Seems to me it must be a phenomenon concoted by civic owners to justify their underpowered four-bangers. Even in Japan, the home of the economy 4cyl, theres a lot of respect for the American V8. They might not be as technologically advanced as an RB26DET or what have you, but power is power. I give mad props to any enthusiast who takes the time to improve their ride, whether it be V8, I4 or any other variation. My 2 cents...

[Charlie97L]

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Apr 13, 2003 - 8:21 PM)

I don't understand why some people hate on V8s. Seems to me it must be a phenomenon concoted by civic owners to justify their underpowered four-bangers. Even in Japan, the home of the economy 4cyl, theres a lot of respect for the American V8. They might not be as technologically advanced as an RB26DET or what have you, but power is power. I give mad props to any enthusiast who takes the time to improve their ride, whether it be V8, I4 or any other variation. My 2 cents...

ditto, well said man. to each his own.

[95STCelica]

i dont know why but if i could get any car it'd be the newer Ram Air Firebird Trans AM they are gorgeous..

[Cody]

A Datsun 240z with small block V8 = Sexy.

[Blackcelliman]

Alot of the V-8's are driven by old people because they don't have to press on the accelerator that hard for it to go a normal speed. I would love to see just once an old woman flooring her Crown Vic down the highway, but I probably will never have the pleasure.

[FallenHero]

QUOTE (MrCodyFantastic @ Apr 13, 2003 - 9:33 PM)

A Datsun 240z with small block V8 = Sexy.

A 240 with a small block and proper suspension are the best race cars there are. They've got perfect 50-50 weight distribution.