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post May 16, 2005 - 11:24 PM
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ok !

so this friday our club is meeting up with the Moscow Eclipse club.......

Now we all know that some of us will have a bit of fun with some racing (drag)..

forget about the drivers for the moment,......

will a stock GT-4 JDM beat the turboed Eclipse (4wd) ????????


whatever happens i'll try and get some photo's of the meet for next week wink.gif


I know someone on this site has some info on eclipes, or even has one !!!!!
the stock GT.4 can push 0 - 60 in 6.1 sec......... and the eclipse ???

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post May 17, 2005 - 12:39 AM
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damn that will be so awsome. get some video!!
post May 17, 2005 - 1:10 AM
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well, if your specs are the same for the eclipse as in the states, I believe it has about 200 hp, compared to your 255. I don't think there would be too much of a weight difference.


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post May 17, 2005 - 3:08 AM
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It wont be a problem for you Bud, you`ll beat him easily. Video footage would be good to see. Let us know how it goes.
post May 17, 2005 - 4:53 AM
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ive done a few races with these cars , only lost once smile.gif

post May 17, 2005 - 6:09 AM
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QUOTE(popstar @ May 16, 2005 - 11:24 PM)


will a stock GT-4 JDM beat the turboed Eclipse (4wd) ????????





I thought the Eclipse was FWD.

You should walk it.


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post May 17, 2005 - 6:55 AM
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Looks like i'm infor some fun on friday night then weather premitting wink.gif

as for video's i'll see what i can do, photo's will be no problems....

thanks for the positive replied


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post May 17, 2005 - 7:36 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_E @ May 17, 2005 - 6:09 AM)
QUOTE(popstar @ May 16, 2005 - 11:24 PM)


will a stock GT-4 JDM beat the turboed Eclipse (4wd) ????????





I thought the Eclipse was FWD.

You should walk it.
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a '99 eclipse GSX is AWD, and the GS-T has same exact motor (same stats) but it is FWD, i assume he is talking about the GSX


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post May 17, 2005 - 7:56 AM
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eclipse gsx is the same thing as a talon tsi. and it being awd will give him the advantage, especially on the launch.
post May 17, 2005 - 8:15 AM
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ok the Talon tsi, as i understand your saying is a turbo and AWD !!!!!
with what 200bhp ??

And my GT-4 turboed 255bhp !!!!!!!!

is a JMD eclipse/talon the same ? anyone know ?



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post May 17, 2005 - 8:18 AM
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QUOTE(Insanity-74 @ May 17, 2005 - 3:08 AM)
It wont be a problem for you Bud, you`ll beat him easily. Video footage would be good to see. Let us know how it goes.
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Thanks mate smile.gif

hey i did the bridging of the intercooler and but the box in the front arch was already removed........... 6 tanks of benzin and i've seen no change in fuel or proformance....... so my baby was already bridged somewhere or need some work somewhere else !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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post May 17, 2005 - 9:11 AM
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a 97-99 GSX is about 100lbs lighter then the 95-96. I have a 96 GSX and they run 14.8's. If he is a good driver and has the 97-99 he should be able to run a 14.5, but if he has fe/i/bc then i would say your gonna lose.
post May 17, 2005 - 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(rockstarbass1 @ May 17, 2005 - 8:56 AM)
eclipse gsx is the same thing as a talon tsi. and it being awd will give him the advantage, especially on the launch.
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the GT-4 is also AWD with more HP and torque, so there is no way the talon(eclipse) could take him, unless of course you REALLY suck at shifting, lol.


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post May 17, 2005 - 1:02 PM
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I've owned and hang out with people that have DSMs, they're easy to mod but if the Eclipse is stock you'll smoke it, but if he put a 16G on it you might lose or tie.
post May 17, 2005 - 2:42 PM
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well most of the time if they have the 16g turbo, they have more done then just that (well the guy i know with one does) and his is fast. but i dont know much about cleicas seeing i just got mine, and this forum is a lil smaller then other so im learning slowly
post May 17, 2005 - 4:13 PM
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QUOTE(popstar @ May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM)
ok the Talon tsi, as i understand your saying is a turbo and AWD !!!!!
with what 200bhp ??

  And my GT-4 turboed 255bhp !!!!!!!!

    is a JMD eclipse/talon the same ? anyone know ?
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there is no such thing as a JDM eclipse/talon

they were all made in the USA for the USA

the 95-99 models have 210hp when stock, the 90-94 are 180hp i think


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post May 17, 2005 - 4:15 PM
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I think the GSX and TSi AWD had about 10 more horsepower also to compensate for the added weight. (Like 10 hp will make a difference with 300 lbs.)
post May 17, 2005 - 4:21 PM
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If you don't smash him you need to do the following.... turn off the car, get out, grab an evelope, write my address on it, and give me the keys to your car biggrin.gif


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post May 17, 2005 - 4:24 PM
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QUOTE(97sccelica @ May 17, 2005 - 2:13 PM)
QUOTE(popstar @ May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM)
ok the Talon tsi, as i understand your saying is a turbo and AWD !!!!!
with what 200bhp ??

  And my GT-4 turboed 255bhp !!!!!!!!

    is a JMD eclipse/talon the same ? anyone know ?
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there is no such thing as a JDM eclipse/talon

they were all made in the USA for the USA

the 95-99 models have 210hp when stock, the 90-94 are 180hp i think
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you lie. I had no clue they were only released in the states. So what, the Lancer was all Mitsu had over there?

wow. no wonder the eclipse was such a piece, it's made in the US. wink.gif
post May 17, 2005 - 4:30 PM
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QUOTE(popstar @ May 17, 2005 - 8:18 AM)
Thanks mate smile.gif

  hey i did the bridging of the intercooler and but the box in the front arch was already removed........... 6 tanks of benzin and i've seen no change in fuel or proformance....... so my baby was already bridged somewhere or need some work somewhere else !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You`ll only see a difference if there was a problem in the first place. Check your error codes and see what comes up - slightly off topic there, noone else will know what we are on about.
Good luck with the Eclipse (not that you`ll need it), hope you show him the way home. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif smile.gif

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