v6 question |
v6 question |
May 24, 2005 - 11:09 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 23, '03 From newport news virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
just wondering, i have noticed that camry's come with a v6 but i also noticed that the camry was released with a 5sfe in it also that lays in the engine bay the same way that the engine sits in my celica. i was wondering if it is feasible to swap a v6 camry engine into a celica i figured it would work seeing as how one of the choice trannies for a 3sgte is a v6 camry tranny and that the stock tranny for a st204 fits also so i figure in theory that a v6 camry engine swap would work with my stock trany i guess i would just need mounts ecu and harness right? or would it be a more complicated swap than expected?
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May 24, 2005 - 11:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Kinda uncharted territory with these cars. As far as I know, theres no such swap ever done. Doesnt mean it cant, just means nobody has done it, or tried. What generation Camry engine are you looking at? 94-96 Camrys had the 1MZ-FE while the 92-93's had the 3VZ-FE.
Personally, I think this is very do-able. Especially since its been done in MR2s for awhile now. I think someone needs to step and try it. I'm also going to add that the Feasible engine swaps thread, needs to be revamped. I'm not convinced that the 2ZZ-GE engine cant fit in the Celica. The reasons listed are pretty weak IMO. This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 24, 2005 - 11:45 AM -------------------- |
May 24, 2005 - 11:44 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
i wouldnt mind seeing a v6 in our car with a turbo hookup!
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May 24, 2005 - 12:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 24, 2005 - 11:42 AM) Kinda uncharted territory with these cars. As far as I know, theres no such swap ever done. Doesnt mean it cant, just means nobody has done it, or tried. What generation Camry engine are you looking at? 94-96 Camrys had the 1MZ-FE while the 92-93's had the 3VZ-FE. Personally, I think this is very do-able. Especially since its been done in MR2s for awhile now. I think someone needs to step and try it. I'm also going to add that the Feasible engine swaps thread, needs to be revamped. I'm not convinced that the 2ZZ-GE engine cant fit in the Celica. The reasons listed are pretty weak IMO. [right][snapback]291086[/snapback][/right] Well said. Also, the bashing of the 2jz needs to be removed too. Thats an awsome engine and can smoke most other engines including the 3s... -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
May 24, 2005 - 1:18 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 19, '04 From austin tx Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Im pretty sure it has been done on a 5th gen. If i find it ill post it up.
EDIT: It was a guy on celica.net, SBCelicaGT... he had a red 5th gen i believe and put a 1mzfe in it. Celica.net is down tho, and so is this guys website. If you have an imagestation account, this might still be up... This post has been edited by mikew04: May 24, 2005 - 1:43 PM -------------------- |
May 24, 2005 - 1:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Has been done already to a 5th gen. He used the 1MZ-FE V6. I believe he's under the name of SBCelicaGT.
This post has been edited by BLADDER_MASTER: May 24, 2005 - 1:50 PM |
May 24, 2005 - 1:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '05 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
isnt the camry engine very very low end torquey with nothing up high?....u prob want to change that thing up a bit before dropping it in ur car unless u want to feel like ur driving a sedan...also it has a weak 185hp and 185trq hell the 1.6 liter blacktop 4age is close enough to that
This post has been edited by MonsterBOX: May 24, 2005 - 1:50 PM |
May 24, 2005 - 1:54 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, here's some dyno sheets for a 1MZ-FE (Auto):
Got it from here: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthre...p?threadid=2567 Here's a modified 1MZ-FE: This post has been edited by BLADDER_MASTER: May 24, 2005 - 2:09 PM |
May 24, 2005 - 2:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From Cincinnati, Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah you can put the 1mzfe engine in the car. It runs from 92-now. THe 1997-99 were the last models without VVTI, afaik. THe guy who swapped it in his 5th says to use a 971mzfe.
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May 24, 2005 - 2:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ May 24, 2005 - 1:54 PM) Here's a modified 1MZ-FE: [right][snapback]291163[/snapback][/right] That car is on the juice. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
May 24, 2005 - 4:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
And heavily modded.
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May 24, 2005 - 6:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Its also been done on an mr2. fessible for a celica, but not explored that much.
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May 24, 2005 - 6:42 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '05 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
do it if u want to be unique but dont expect a huge difference cuz its a 6 cylinder...if u want a 6 cylinder that makes a difference get the supra engine
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May 24, 2005 - 7:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(MonsterBOX @ May 24, 2005 - 6:42 PM) do it if u want to be unique but dont expect a huge difference cuz its a 6 cylinder...if u want a 6 cylinder that makes a difference get the supra engine [right][snapback]291293[/snapback][/right] noobs advising noobs -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
May 24, 2005 - 8:32 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 17, '03 From Ontario, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE QUOTE(MonsterBOX @ May 24, 2005 - 6:42 PM) do it if u want to be unique but dont expect a huge difference cuz its a 6 cylinder...if u want a 6 cylinder that makes a difference get the supra engine noobs advising noobs I'll second that. I would be doing this right now if I had a garage! |
May 24, 2005 - 8:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '05 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
noobs? what the hell seriously the engine isnt that powerful at all for a 3 liter v6 find another engine..i know the supra wont fit without alot of work but still for the money and time ud put into swapping a v6 camry that has never been in a 6gc before and going through all the wiring which would probably require a standalone ur way better off with a 3sgte 4 cylinder for the performance u would get....theres a guy in my town with an mr2 with the camry engine and its not what u would expect
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May 24, 2005 - 8:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 17, '03 From Ontario, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
adding the supra engine would not be a swap.
You would have to hack the chasis so much, that it goes beyond what a swap is. |
May 24, 2005 - 8:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 23, '03 From ky Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've researched this swap, and have gone far enough to actually have a 96 1m sitting in my garage. I do know that a stock hood will not clear the intake manifold without sitting it lower in the engine bay, That means new mounts and cradle modifications. How hard this will be i am not for sure, but that's with a 5th gen, as far as the 6th gen it almost looks like the motor sits lower anyway, not enough though. As soon as a little more money comes my way i may actually start this, only time will tell though, if the car is not sold first.
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May 24, 2005 - 9:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '05 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
good luck...alot of work ahead....r u gonna get poly mounts?
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May 24, 2005 - 10:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Doa photo journal. G'luck I'd like to see it.
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