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post May 25, 2005 - 2:04 AM
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You know what I notice? A lot of people talk... but no one really walks. FYI, you can't do a 2JZ without doing a RWD conversion...


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post May 25, 2005 - 2:51 AM
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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 24, 2005 - 4:42 PM)

I'm also going to add that the Feasible engine swaps thread, needs to be revamped. I'm not convinced that the 2ZZ-GE engine cant fit in the Celica. The reasons listed are pretty weak IMO.
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What is this all about? I'm sure I could swap one in with very minimal trouble. I've swapped one into a '98 Corolla and that was a little more difficult.

Is it worth it when the 3SGTE is such an easy option is the question smile.gif

Anyway, the V6 is a feasible swap, and a good one for being unique and if you like the torque of a V6. Again, is it worth it when you have the 3SGTE option? smile.gif


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post May 25, 2005 - 3:15 AM
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YOU MEAN A 2JZ WONT FIT SIDEWAYS UNDER MY HOOD? biggrin.gif

I think a VR6 out of a jetta would not be to bad a swap, you can get some good power out of em, and there a good size, ment for FWD so your good as far as that goes. (any swap like thet is gana take some serous work dont get me rong)

but yeah why go that far when a 3s is a ecelent fit and a great motor.



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post May 25, 2005 - 3:18 AM
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QUOTE(creis @ May 25, 2005 - 8:15 AM)
YOU MEAN A 2JZ WONT FIT SIDEWAYS UNDER MY HOOD? biggrin.gif

I think a VR6 out of a jetta would not be to bad a swap, you can get some good power out of em, and there a good size, ment for FWD so your good as far as that goes. (any swap like thet is gana take some serous work dont get me rong)

but yeah why go that far when a 3s is a ecelent fit and a great motor.
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Yamaha 3.0 SHO engine biggrin.gif I'm seriously thinking about that one...

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post May 25, 2005 - 3:31 AM
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eh, there like 230hp stock right. the problem is the power to weight, the bigger the motor, the more it has to put out to keep up with the lighter one.

The high proformance taurus always kinda maid me laugh, dont really know why, maybe because its a family car.


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post May 25, 2005 - 3:57 AM
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If you want to talk about a 1mzfe swap into a fifth-gen Celica...the guy's name is Adrian Averginos (okay, not sure on SP on the last name) and he's a regular on celicatech.com.
post May 25, 2005 - 4:25 AM
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QUOTE(creis @ May 25, 2005 - 8:31 AM)
The high proformance taurus always kinda maid me laugh, dont really know why, maybe because its a family car.
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If you don't get it, then you missed the point and there isn't a point in me trying to explain it to you. smile.gif


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post May 25, 2005 - 1:23 PM
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QUOTE(creis @ May 25, 2005 - 3:15 AM)
YOU MEAN A 2JZ WONT FIT SIDEWAYS UNDER MY HOOD? biggrin.gif

I think a VR6 out of a jetta would not be to bad a swap, you can get some good power out of em, and there a good size, ment for FWD so your good as far as that goes. (any swap like thet is gana take some serous work dont get me rong)

but yeah why go that far when a 3s is a ecelent fit and a great motor.
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hahahahaha.....volks are so freakin complicated that its just a joke...if u look at a vr6 under a jetta hood its so messed up it would take u 8 years to get it out of the car
post May 25, 2005 - 1:41 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ May 24, 2005 - 3:51 PM)
QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ May 24, 2005 - 1:54 PM)
Here's a modified 1MZ-FE:

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That car is on the juice.
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They forgot to mention the 200 shot of nitrous didn't they.
post May 25, 2005 - 1:48 PM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ May 25, 2005 - 3:04 AM)
You know what I notice?  A lot of people talk... but no one really walks.  FYI, you can't do a 2JZ without doing a RWD conversion...
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It's probable, if you want to cut the car completly in half and add about 10" of sheet metal, F1 Motorsports I believe made a true widebody out of a Mustang Cobra, they also said they had over $100,000 in it. I should start walking in about 2 months when I start looking for a decent 3S and rear end, on the steering rack issue an F-Body steering system works nicely and leaves enough room for a V8 if I wanted, steering system is coming from F-Body Motorsports in Concord.
post May 25, 2005 - 2:00 PM
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hey,
i have been doing toyota swaps for years and 1mz swap is very easy mechanically speaking ..the wiring will be the harder challenge but not that bad if you study wiring diagrams..

you just need
1mz 97-01 manual ecu if you plan to run stock or no turbo etc..
solara v6 or converted mr2 tranny
gt or st205 tranny mounts
modified intermediate shaft to work with v6 bearing carrier
same axles are turbo swap
camry rad or look for one with top hose on other side of car


i could almost do a step by step on how 2 do it but just no time .. only 2 fab'ing issues will be rear header and pass side mount .. might have to use factory style set up for rear header or some cutting of rear subframe may be needed ..

if you had a front cut off a solara or camry 5 speed it you could almost make a stock looking v6 celica .. one plus is wiring to ecu go in same area as camry so there should be no need to cut it

it really is a easy swap for some one with more than just basic knowledge ..

if i did one i would s/c and you would have a great sleeper w/ 280hp





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post May 25, 2005 - 2:00 PM
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well i was tinking about it i was looking into a 94-96 camry engine just wondering how crazy the wiring would be. as long as its obdi i dont think it would present too much problem i think if i was to shift earlier and use the low end torque to an advantage the car should move a little better than expected i was just wondering how bad the understeer would be. or if anybody has done as to give me some pointers. the main reason for asking was for the trd supercharger addition i think it would be great but not too sure if it would work or not...

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post May 25, 2005 - 2:50 PM
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QUOTE(creis @ May 25, 2005 - 3:31 AM)
eh, there like 230hp stock right. the problem is the power to weight, the bigger the motor, the more it has to put out to keep up with the lighter one.

The high proformance taurus always kinda maid me laugh, dont really know why, maybe because its a family car.
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Good point. But the 1MZ-FE weighs about the same as a 3S-GTE.
post May 25, 2005 - 2:51 PM
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QUOTE(darksecret @ May 25, 2005 - 1:41 PM)
QUOTE(jgreening @ May 24, 2005 - 3:51 PM)
QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ May 24, 2005 - 1:54 PM)
Here's a modified 1MZ-FE:

user posted image
[right][snapback]291163[/snapback][/right]


That car is on the juice.
[right][snapback]291186[/snapback][/right]


They forgot to mention the 200 shot of nitrous didn't they.
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Look again and notice where it says "120 n2o"
post May 25, 2005 - 3:08 PM
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I go to all the trouble of making tech threads for you people and nobody searches...

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=18694&hl=
post May 25, 2005 - 3:10 PM
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My mistake I was reading the torque curve.
post May 25, 2005 - 7:25 PM
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QUOTE(FORGMANN @ May 25, 2005 - 7:00 PM)
hey,
i have been doing toyota swaps for years and 1mz  swap is very easy mechanically speaking ..the wiring will be the harder challenge but not that bad if you study wiring diagrams..

you just need
1mz 97-01  manual ecu if you plan to run stock or no turbo etc..
solara v6  or converted mr2 tranny
gt or st205 tranny mounts
  modified intermediate shaft to work with v6 bearing carrier
same axles are turbo swap
  camry rad or look for one with top hose on other side of car


i could almost do a step by step on how 2 do it but just no time .. only 2 fab'ing issues will be rear header and pass side mount .. might have to use factory style set up for rear header or some cutting of rear subframe may be needed ..

  if you had a front cut off a solara or camry 5 speed it you could almost make a stock looking v6 celica .. one plus is wiring to ecu go in same area as camry so there should be no need to cut it 

it really is a easy swap for some one with more than just basic knowledge ..

if i did one i would s/c and you would have a great sleeper  w/ 280hp
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Yea that pretty much sums up the swap, but there is another little issue and that's the height of the motor once actually in the engine bay, i have yet to set a 7a/5s directly nexted to a 1m, but according to sbcelica i believe he once told me that the hood liked about a 1 1/2 inches (not 100%) closing. If that is the case then a gt-4 hood will clear it, with some washers. As far as everything else i don't believe it'll be as hard as a 3sgte swap, because as you said the wiring shouldn't be extremely difficult, and jegs has a radiator that will work and basically everything else is the same as a 3s swap.

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