JET V-force ignition module, what do you guys think? Options

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

I was checking this out on NOPI today.....JET V-Force
It sounds like a decent upgrade, especially if i were to add some minor mods like i/e/h and pulley or something, it sounds like this would keep it all running efficiently so that i dont run too rich/lean. Does anybody have one of these, or any experience with it?? Tell me what you think of it. I was thinking either this or the Venom 400, but im not sure what the difference really is as far as performance, installation, etc. goes......this is almost 100 bucks cheaper than the Venom 400. Either way, give me your input


This post has been edited by Silver94CelicaOwner: Apr 19, 2003 - 11:24 PM

[White_GTS]

I'm in the same stage as you trying to decide which one to buy. I think the Jet V-Force would be better since Jet is a way better name. Let me know which one you choose.

[FallenHero]

You guys just need to hang on for a little while. I'm trying to get these at dealer price like I can rims and such. If it works out we could get these things for scratch. I think the jet one is really hard to wire though. You might try e-mailing jet to find out. I'd like to know that anyway.

[CelicaGT6G]

No offence guys those two are like apples and oranges. The Jet product changes the enigne timing as far as ive read, the venom changes air intake and fuel intake as well as timing. No brainer man go with the Venom.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

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I think the jet one is really hard to wire though. You might try e-mailing jet to find out. I'd like to know that anyway.

Yeah, i was thinking the same thing.....im sure the Venom is much easier to install since its harnessed into the ECU, and their website says about 20-30 minute install. I was personally thinking more along the lines of the Venom 400, it just looks more substantial than the JET module.....then again i havent seen anybody who's installed the JET, so maybe its better for all i know.


EDIT- Just did some research on the JET module.....found a link here, the site says it modifies the ignition curve, as well as the fuel/air ratio. I found another site that said the same, and they added that it was a simple plug in install, so that answers that question. Plus, its got some kind of nifty LED display going on there too.

This post has been edited by Silver94CelicaOwner: Apr 20, 2003 - 8:23 PM

[FallenHero]

AGH! Let me go and research.10:38

V-Force Power Control Module - 4cyl - 20mhz RISC microprocessor optimizes the ignition spark advance and recalibrates the fuel map for optimum horsepower and acceleration

The Venom looks really easy to do. It only has 4 wires, and tow of them are '+' and '-'.

The venom has to be turned on and off when the ignition is on or off. So no turning it on at a red light.

I don't know if the jet is like that or not, but it appears it can be turned up or down. All I've read about either is that they both perform about the same. That means about 2-5 tenths of a second off of your 1/4th mile time. They said it makes a bigger difference on automatics. I also read in an older post that the JET was on recall. But it was an old post. Who knows. Were I to buy one, it would be the JET V-force. It's buy a tried and tru company, and it is mounted inside.(all the venoms I saw were in the engine bay.) PLUS, jet says that it provides 10-15 hp on honda's, so who knows. I'm tired and going to bed.

11:28

[White_GTS]

CelicaGT6G,

Did the Venom 400 make a difference in power wise for your car? Does it turn it self off when you turn off your engine and if you want it back on do you have to pop open your hood and switch it on? How does it work and how long did it take you to install it?

Any of you guys decided which one is better jet between the two? Does anyone have the Jet V-Force on this site?

I have a feeling that the Jet may be better because of the brand but I'm not sure.

But if you install either of them incorrectly the check engine light will come on.

[FallenHero]

either that or it will play hell with your computer. : )

I'm getting a price on the jet. I would have had it tonight, but couldn't get a hold of them.

Jon

[CelicaGT6G]

QUOTE (White_GTS @ Apr 21, 2003 - 2:05 PM)

CelicaGT6G, Did the Venom 400 make a difference in power wise for your car? Does it turn it self off when you turn off your engine and if you want it back on do you have to pop open your hood and switch it on? How does it work and how long did it take you to install it? Any of you guys decided which one is better jet between the two? Does anyone have the Jet V-Force on this site? I have a feeling that the Jet may be better because of the brand but I'm not sure. But if you install either of them incorrectly the check engine light will come on.

First to say that the venom does not have to be turned on and off. once its on it stays on with the car, the only time you turn it off if you want is for inspections. there is an led that tells when it is is working. you do not have to switch it on everytime you use it. thats stupid. It made a huge differance. More power and torque. it increases the hp by 25% usually. it hooks into the harness that goes to the ecu. it only took me and my friend like 20 mins to install. By the way you dont have to mount it in the engine bay, it just fits there really well and its out of the way. its waterproof too. the jet system is not as good as the venom, my friend returned the jet one recently and said that he should have listened to me on the venom for his galant. its just a better product. if you get one do this hook it up and run your car. stop and turn the unit off then run your car again. i gaurantee you will feel a huge differance. hope this helps.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

QUOTE (FallenHero @ Apr 21, 2003 - 8:32 PM)

either that or it will play hell with your computer. : ) I'm getting a price on the jet.  I would have had it tonight, but couldn't get a hold of them. Jon

If youre really interested in getting one, go to the second link i provided above in my edit. (its speedfreaksspeedshop.com) they sell them for $199, which is the cheapest ive seen.

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the jet system is not as good as the venom, my friend returned the jet one recently and said that he should have listened to me on the venom for his galant. its just a better product.

Im glad you have had some personal experience with both.......at first sight i didnt think the JET was as good looking as the Venom, it just looks cheaper and less potent or something. If you know for a fact from personal experience that the Venom is the way to go, ill trust your word and go for that instead.

[White_GTS]

Silver94CelicaOwner

So are you going for the Venom 400 for sure? When are you getting it?

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

White_GTS, I'll probably work on performance after i get my bodywork/rims/interior finished this summer.....so it wont be for a while, probably. But other people who have the Venom say its great. I plan on making an intake for good airflow, then Venom 400 to adjust fuel map, then Nology Hotwires and iridium plugs(and possibly a Crane Cams ignition unit if necessary) to give me better igntion capabilities, this way everything should run pretty smooth.......thats what i have planned thus far.

[White_GTS]

How many miles have your engine gone so far. I have 205,000 KM not Miles. I'm from Canada.

[FallenHero]

QUOTE (Silver94CelicaOwner @ Apr 22, 2003 - 8:07 AM)

If youre really interested in getting one, go to the second link i provided above in my edit. (its speedfreaksspeedshop.com) they sell them for $199, which is the cheapest ive seen.

199 We'll see what i can whole sale it for.

I've read conflicting arguments about both. Just get a new engine. : )


And not to be a jack a**, but the venom claims 25% upgrades in power. To be honest, there is just no possible way. That's adding what? 28ish hp? Considering that a top of the line Apex S-AFC adds about 2-5whp on non-aspirated cars, i would say 'Use your head' on this one.