4A-GTE 20V, Thinking... Options

[JoKeRkId613]

My car's automatic 7A. I want either the 4A-GZE and manual swap. OR 4A-GE 20V Silvertop automatic:-) I know the silvertop has a very high compression ratio. 10.5 i think. I wanted to turbo later on. Is it possible to lower the compression ratio of this motor? How hard is it to do and how do u do it? Thanks.

[Coomer]

I could've sworn I'd answered your post before with information about turboing the 4A-GE. Yes, it's possible, and not very difficult. Searching will yield the answers you're looking for.

[Punch]

very ez to do & your down here so all the parts you need you can get when you want to do it you let me know so I can get it done for you. I can help you get the parts if you need them???

[JoKeRkId613]

yo punch. i remember seeing u at the BCC meet. one of the first ones. hey, how much you think someone can swap the 4a for? because i know this place where they can swap the 4age silvertop auto for 2,500(parts+labor, motor, tranny, everything) and the gze with manual for like 3,800. the good thing is that they already get the front clip for you and they include it in the price. you know anyone that can do it? if so, hook me up with prices. i think ethnykceli was gonna get it done too(gze).

[Punch]

let me know what you want to do & I get you a price 5spd or auto???

[JoKeRkId613]

check the 4agze 5spd, and auto(i dont think it exists because there's no gze auto ecu, but check it out anyway). and also the 4age silvertop. im more interested in the auto since i already have auto and they wont have to add the pedal and all that other bs. so im guessing another auto would be cheaper. but yea, if you could, get me a quote for those 4. gze auto or 5spd. and the 4a silvertop auto or 5spd. thanks a lot punch. keep me updated. i REALLY wanna do this swap this summer before august.

[JoKeRkId613]

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[FAQdaWorld]

If you're allready swapping the motor it is 100X more easy to just swap to manual. The motor is allready out, so you can get where you need to be pretty easily, just add the third pedal, it is seriously much easier and more worthwhile in the longrun, especially if you use the e58 from a 4agze (lsd).

I wouldn't think a shop would charge that much to do the auto to manual swap in terms of putting the pedal in there, it was seriously the easiest thing I did w/ my swap.

[Kwanza26]

If you're allready swapping the motor it is 100X more easy to just swap to manual. The motor is allready out, so you can get where you need to be pretty easily, just add the third pedal, it is seriously much easier and more worthwhile in the longrun, especially if you use the e58 from a 4agze (lsd).

I wouldn't think a shop would charge that much to do the auto to manual swap in terms of putting the pedal in there, it was seriously the easiest thing I did w/ my swap.
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You're giving him good info... but it seems he still wants to *think* about it some more...

If you want something done... best to do it yourself. If you wait on others... you'll be waiting a very long time. I usually say... talk less... do more.

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jul 6, 2005 - 12:15 PM

[JoKeRkId613]

the only thing im thinking about is which motor/tranny is best for me. i already have the money saved up for parts and to pay labor. my 7a will die soon. i have a bad feeling. so im ready to pay. theyre charging me 3,000 for the silvertop manual, 3,800 for the silvertop automatic. and 3,800 for the gze manual. i dont mind paying all that because my engine n tranny will die soon. especially my tranny. well i prefer auto because i know auto trannys well and i can manipulate them to act as manual almost. dont really know how to explain but a lot of ppl i race ask me if its stickshift. maybe its the way i drive, i dunno. so auto is fine and its less of a hassle. then again, i say that because i dont know manual. but i know many people that do, so i could learn easily. i love to learn. and the manual will probably last me so much longer, etc. the thing i worry about is when i get in near-collisions. lol. with an auto im like ok, well all i do is brake and even at that, i still almost crashed, now imagine me thinking about all the things i gotta do in case of a near collision. i dunno, again, its all mental because im sure when i learn ill be like 'damn, i cant believe i said that. driving stick is easy'. i know it becomes practical. but yea, i dunno, i know more people that have crashed with a manual than with an auto. lol. so its those three choices im thinking about. its not about talking less n doing more because all i gotta do is give the guy the "go-ahead". i wont be touching anything on the car. im paying someone to do it for me. im willing to spend up to those 4,000. thats my budget. so if its the 3,800 for the silvertop auto, thats great cuz i get auto and a badass all-motor high compression 4a. if its the 3,000, i get the silvertop manual which is cool too, cuz i save 1,000 dollars. even tho at this point, id rather waste the same amount as the silvertop auto for a gze. supercharged! omg, thatll be cool. FAQ, im dying to see more pics and vids of that motor in action man! let me know what u guys think. what should i get?

[Coomer]

An automatic silvertop 4A-GE would be somewhat pointless IMO. The motor gets all of its power up high, and I doubt the auto tranny would shift at 8,000 RPM like you can with a manual, even if you floor it. And trust me, your car does not shift like a manual, and cannot be manipulated to seem like a manual. Once you learn to drive a stick(which I highly recommend), you'll see what I mean.

[slipgun]

Manual just isnt as efficent... more power to the wheels > more power from the engine

[Coomer]

Manual just isnt as efficent... more power to the wheels > more power from the engine
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I thought they were more efficient...solid clutch vs. liquid-filled torque converter.

[JoKeRkId613]

hey chris, you got any mroe shots of your engine bay. that thing looks sooo clean!

[Kwanza26]

Manual just isnt as efficent... more power to the wheels > more power from the engine
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Heh... what a wild guess. Manual trannies are much more efficient in transfering. Auto trannies may sometimes get better gas mileage, which you may translate into "efficiency"... but as far as putting down power... can't beat a manual tranny. Much less stuff to suck up power.

[Punch]

just what those guys said!!

[slipgun]

Manual just isnt as efficent... more power to the wheels > more power from the engine
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Heh... what a wild guess. Manual trannies are much more efficient in transfering. Auto trannies may sometimes get better gas mileage, which you may translate into "efficiency"... but as far as putting down power... can't beat a manual tranny. Much less stuff to suck up power.
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Umm... I really ment auto isnt as efficent im not a retard I just dint read what I wrote and wrote it too fast. But thanks for not flaming me for making a comment that stupid

This post has been edited by slipgun: Jul 9, 2005 - 1:04 AM