Project 2 years in the making, 3rd gen 3SGE + T into an ST (pics soon) |
Project 2 years in the making, 3rd gen 3SGE + T into an ST (pics soon) |
Jul 14, 2005 - 3:03 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 1, '03 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
About 2 years ago I started to collect part for a new project - putting a 3rd gen 3SGE into my wifes 6th gen Celica ST. Well, after a short bout with unemployment and a long home remodeling project, I've finally started on the engine swap.
The motor was dismanteled after receiving it, and the stock 10.5:1 cr pistons were replaced with stock turbo pistons. Everything else internally was kept stock. Since I am only looking for power in the 300 - 350 HP range, I could have used the stock tranny, but since I had a spare MR2 turbo trans sitting around I decided to use that. I found an stock LSD differential on the web, and had the guys at Team Rip (teamrip.com) install the diff and "clean up" the gears. The turbo kit uses a modified Greddy based knock-off exhaust manifold along with a 14b Mitsu turbo and an Evo III O2 housing. The O2 housing comes a little too close to the 3S's AC compressor, so I'm using the A/C compressor from the ST with the comp wheel off the 3S compressor. Once the engine has been broken it properly, I'll probably swap out the 14b with a small 16G or EVO turbo. Last weekend I picked up the GT4 super-struts from Martin and hope to have the full shocks / brakes installed this weekend (if the bushing collars ever come in from the dealership). I'll post a couple of pics shortly. This post has been edited by scothaniel: Jul 14, 2005 - 4:26 PM -------------------- Scott
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Jul 14, 2005 - 3:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 18, '04 From Manitoba, Canada Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
that sounds awesome, good luck with it!
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Jul 14, 2005 - 3:25 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 6, '03 From Philadelphia Suburbs Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
pics are key!
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Jul 14, 2005 - 3:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 1, '03 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Out with the old:
In with the new: Various: This post has been edited by scothaniel: Jul 15, 2005 - 11:04 AM -------------------- Scott
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Jul 14, 2005 - 3:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
nice work!
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Jul 14, 2005 - 3:39 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 12, '03 From Crestview, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
that looks awesome.
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Jul 14, 2005 - 3:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
nice job...looks like a very cool project
how did u deal with the wiring of the harness? does the motor run yet? -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Jul 14, 2005 - 4:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 1, '03 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I used the RHD 3SGE harness. Only 30 or so wires were needed to be extended. I haven't fired it up yet, but I tested for error codes from the ECU and only got 1 (code 23). Just need to figure out how to fix it. BTW - I'm using a 3rd gen MR2 turbo ecu.
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Jul 14, 2005 - 4:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
besides extending.... did you have to rewire the ecu or fuse box at all ?
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Jul 14, 2005 - 4:58 PM |
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Nice work! That manifold looks sweet.
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Jul 14, 2005 - 5:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 16, '02 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
wow! I agree, that exhaust manifold is niiiiiice shiny shiny
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Jul 14, 2005 - 6:45 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
VERY NICE you did all that work for your wife wow
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Jul 14, 2005 - 6:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 10, '05 From Monroe, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
nice swap where did u get the turbo manifold and will it hold a t3/t4?
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Jul 14, 2005 - 10:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From New York Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
damnn that looks awsomee.. nice man
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Jul 15, 2005 - 7:34 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Kewl finally someone who has modified a 3S-GE engine.
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Jul 15, 2005 - 8:29 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 1, '03 From Michigan Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, I had to add some bling to the bay. Next will be cleaning up the wastegate - maybe some black paint to make it right.
I repinned the ECU connectors to the new ECU - had to do a little cutting and soldering there too. The most difficult part was getting a 3SGE EFI diagram in english - everyone one I found was written in Kanji. I did have to add a couple of wires for the 2nd air-temp sensor and the Turbo VSV. The wiring for the fuel pump is a little different too - the turbo ECU's have a low and high fuel pressure switch (via relay) to bump up the fuel under WOT, but the non-turbo cars only have 1 setting. I left the wire disconnected at the ECU, so I may end up with a code later on. Easy enough to fix. Found the manifold on Ebay. It was supposed to be part of a 3rd gen Greddy L2 turbo kit - but it was a shotty knock off. The L2 turbo's have a circular 2" flange, so I just bought a standard TD05 flange, routed down the L2 flange. and welded the TD05 flange right on top of it. It wont fit a T3 turbo, but If I ever decide to switch over I'll just cut this flange off and weld on a T3. This post has been edited by scothaniel: Jul 15, 2005 - 8:33 AM -------------------- Scott
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Jul 15, 2005 - 10:06 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
wow.. seems like another person that might be able to help a "how to" for the engine wiring?
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Jul 15, 2005 - 10:22 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 17, '03 From Bloomington, Indiana Currently Offline Reputation: 62 (98%) |
Wow That is AMAZING
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Jul 15, 2005 - 2:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 21, '04 From New York City Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
OMG... the manifold looks awesome. great work man~!
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Jul 15, 2005 - 2:57 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
looking at those pics, do you have to take off the intake manifold off to get to the spark plugs or to change the valve cover gasket?
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