4th Gen 3S, real or fake? Options

[jgreening]

I was just trying to prevent the spread of incorrect information. I realised that you had no idea what you were talking about and was frustrated when you questioned the facts I had already provided you.

When people say things with such certainty, like you did, others that are trying to learn and research can't get the correct facts because of contradicting information. If you don't know something, don't make assumptions. It'll be better for everyone if only the people that know for a fact answer the questions. It would have been better for you to ask what the differences were, instead of  giving false information just to be corrected.
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Wisdom.

Well see.  Thats how I learned my informations.  From people.  Just people.  I don't mind being incorrected.  Engines aren't my strong points.  So what I read around the forums is what I know.  Doesn't bother me. 

But see.  Theres so many people who don't share valueable information though.  Which is why bad information gets spread around.  I didn't do nothing wrong.  Just being human.
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Well, to be frank, when you post something as if you know, people who read your post later may assume its correct and make buying decisions based on misinformation. Thats wrong. Its ok to be wrong. We all get things wrong from time to time. However, when I am not sure of myself, I always try to point that out when I post. In that way, you can still try to be helpful but if someone tries to rely on your statement after you said "I think" then its their problem. Best regards.

Jay

[tomazws]

If you ask me.  A 4th generation 3sgte never existed.
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it did in the Caldina... would be a major pain to swap and wire tho...
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As in a lot harder to swap compared to earlier generation 3sgtes?

[lagos]

If you ask me.  A 4th generation 3sgte never existed.
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it did in the Caldina... would be a major pain to swap and wire tho...
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As in a lot harder to swap compared to earlier generation 3sgtes?
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yeah... it would be a major pain to find wiring diagrams for it, and no one really knows if the motor mounts are the same or not. alot of parts changed on that motor, so finding replacement parts would also be a pain.

correct me if im wrong, but isint the caldina the jdm version of our matrix?

[pokemeintheeye]

Well, to be frank, when you post something as if you know, people who read your post later may assume its correct and make buying decisions based on misinformation.  Thats wrong.  Its ok to be wrong.  We all get things wrong from time to time.  However, when I am not sure of myself, I always try to point that out when I post.  In that way, you can still try to be helpful but if someone tries to rely on your statement after you said "I think" then its their problem.  Best regards.

Jay
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The forums are ment for misinformation to be corrected and to be discussed. I'll say it again. I didn't do nothing wrong. When I was wrong I admitted it. In a lot of cases. If you ever ask a question or mention something you're not so sure about. All people ever do is poke fun. Why so? Its human nature.

"I think" implies being unsure. Logically, anyone should know its not known as a fact. Everyone will take in information their own ways though. If in the end they misinterpret something. Then oh well. Can't do much about it. Just gotta move on.

[pokemeintheeye]

If you ask me.  A 4th generation 3sgte never existed.
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it did in the Caldina... would be a major pain to swap and wire tho...
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As in a lot harder to swap compared to earlier generation 3sgtes?
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yeah... it would be a major pain to find wiring diagrams for it, and no one really knows if the motor mounts are the same or not. alot of parts changed on that motor, so finding replacement parts would also be a pain.

correct me if im wrong, but isint the caldina the jdm version of our matrix?
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Nah. Then Matrix can be seen as a North American version of the Corolla hatchback.

[jgreening]

Well, to be frank, when you post something as if you know, people who read your post later may assume its correct and make buying decisions based on misinformation.  Thats wrong.  Its ok to be wrong.  We all get things wrong from time to time.  However, when I am not sure of myself, I always try to point that out when I post.  In that way, you can still try to be helpful but if someone tries to rely on your statement after you said "I think" then its their problem.  Best regards.

Jay
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The forums are ment for misinformation to be corrected and to be discussed. I'll say it again. I didn't do nothing wrong. When I was wrong I admitted it. In a lot of cases. If you ever ask a question or mention something you're not so sure about. All people ever do is poke fun. Why so? Its human nature.

"I think" implies being unsure. Logically, anyone should know its not known as a fact. Everyone will take in information their own ways though. If in the end they misinterpret something. Then oh well. Can't do much about it. Just gotta move on.
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The problem is that you didn't say "I think". You stated your misinformation as if it were a fact.

[pokemeintheeye]

Well, to be frank, when you post something as if you know, people who read your post later may assume its correct and make buying decisions based on misinformation.  Thats wrong.  Its ok to be wrong.  We all get things wrong from time to time.  However, when I am not sure of myself, I always try to point that out when I post.  In that way, you can still try to be helpful but if someone tries to rely on your statement after you said "I think" then its their problem.  Best regards.

Jay
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The forums are ment for misinformation to be corrected and to be discussed. I'll say it again. I didn't do nothing wrong. When I was wrong I admitted it. In a lot of cases. If you ever ask a question or mention something you're not so sure about. All people ever do is poke fun. Why so? Its human nature.

"I think" implies being unsure. Logically, anyone should know its not known as a fact. Everyone will take in information their own ways though. If in the end they misinterpret something. Then oh well. Can't do much about it. Just gotta move on.
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The problem is that you didn't say "I think". You stated your misinformation as if it were a fact.
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Well actually, I said "If you ask me." Which would mean, "to me." To explain, I would be saying "Its not to me, but I if it is to you. Then thats fine."

So yeah you're right. I never did say "I think." I also never said I said it.

[jayi12-15psi]

To an English major, such as myself, you did something terribly wrong.

[pokemeintheeye]

We mostly all did.

[Junior]

Well, to be frank, when you post something as if you know, people who read your post later may assume its correct and make buying decisions based on misinformation.  Thats wrong.  Its ok to be wrong.  We all get things wrong from time to time.  However, when I am not sure of myself, I always try to point that out when I post.  In that way, you can still try to be helpful but if someone tries to rely on your statement after you said "I think" then its their problem.  Best regards.

Jay
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The forums are ment for misinformation to be corrected and to be discussed. I'll say it again. I didn't do nothing wrong. When I was wrong I admitted it. In a lot of cases. If you ever ask a question or mention something you're not so sure about. All people ever do is poke fun. Why so? Its human nature.

"I think" implies being unsure. Logically, anyone should know its not known as a fact. Everyone will take in information their own ways though. If in the end they misinterpret something. Then oh well. Can't do much about it. Just gotta move on.
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actually, when you were wrong, you denied being wrong once before you admitted it.

[pokemeintheeye]

Well, to be frank, when you post something as if you know, people who read your post later may assume its correct and make buying decisions based on misinformation.  Thats wrong.  Its ok to be wrong.  We all get things wrong from time to time.  However, when I am not sure of myself, I always try to point that out when I post.  In that way, you can still try to be helpful but if someone tries to rely on your statement after you said "I think" then its their problem.  Best regards.

Jay
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The forums are ment for misinformation to be corrected and to be discussed. I'll say it again. I didn't do nothing wrong. When I was wrong I admitted it. In a lot of cases. If you ever ask a question or mention something you're not so sure about. All people ever do is poke fun. Why so? Its human nature.

"I think" implies being unsure. Logically, anyone should know its not known as a fact. Everyone will take in information their own ways though. If in the end they misinterpret something. Then oh well. Can't do much about it. Just gotta move on.
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actually, when you were wrong, you denied being wrong once before you admitted it.
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Umm.. Yes of course. That was because I didn't completely acknowledge being wrong. But its the end result and not the inbetween.