CAI vs Short ram |
CAI vs Short ram |
Sep 10, 2005 - 5:24 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '04 From Antioch, Norcal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I know this has been asked 100 times but I have a short ram on my GT right now and I recently found the How to for a CAI, I was wondering if there was a big enough difference to spend the 40 or whatever for the piping and the time spent installing? Whats the average power gain on a short ram vs a CAI? Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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Sep 10, 2005 - 6:33 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
cais are a few more hp and sound way nicer. Go for the cai.
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Sep 10, 2005 - 6:38 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
with a short ram...it is STILL in the engine bay sucking in HOT air....thus you might LOSE some horse power...
CAI will suck in COLD AIR since it is OUTSIDE the car = more hp |
Sep 11, 2005 - 1:07 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 27, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
I was in your boat... had a short ram... but now i just got done installing the Accord 90-93 CAI on my car..
Haven't driven it yet but it should be much better. -------------------- ~Daniel~ No Longer Celica Owner.. moved on to a 03 WRX-EJ207
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Sep 11, 2005 - 3:06 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 16, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
also remember that ur stock air box sucks in cold air.
its been shown by dyno that short ram gains about as much hp as a hiflow air box filter does. Id go with CAI |
Sep 11, 2005 - 3:10 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '03 From IL Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
i don't really trust the filter being there... wouldn't the tires be uncomfortably close to the filter? -------------------- PROJECT 6TH GEN
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Sep 11, 2005 - 5:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
nope mine is even lower then his...he won't have an issue with it
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Sep 12, 2005 - 10:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 27, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
the inner fender plastic isn't shown in that pic... so its protected from the tire
-------------------- ~Daniel~ No Longer Celica Owner.. moved on to a 03 WRX-EJ207
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Sep 13, 2005 - 5:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 7, '04 From Leeuwarden, Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well, what about pipes from the CAI? when you drive the car, they become hot too. Doesn't the air get heated up traveling trough it?
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Sep 13, 2005 - 5:39 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 14, '05 From Auckland,New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
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one question, I have fitted a shortram before but I did not like the sound in the morning(toilet sucking in water). How would a CAI sound? This post has been edited by soven: Sep 13, 2005 - 5:41 AM |
Sep 13, 2005 - 6:35 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Silvan @ Sep 13, 2005 - 3:31 AM) Well, what about pipes from the CAI? when you drive the car, they become hot too. Doesn't the air get heated up traveling trough it? [right][snapback]333586[/snapback][/right] if your really crazy about heat. You can buy a special thermal insulation and wrap the pipe. Buts its not worth your time or money. |
Sep 13, 2005 - 4:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
i got a new version cai, stay tuned for pics..cost is $0 as well.
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Sep 14, 2005 - 9:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 27, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
i've read in a few places that the tubing helps keep heat out... but it will still get hot... but it should be better than the stock air box and a short ram. Its a $35 dollar mod that sounds and looks nice. :-D
-------------------- ~Daniel~ No Longer Celica Owner.. moved on to a 03 WRX-EJ207
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Sep 14, 2005 - 10:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 17, '03 From Tampa FL Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
how about keeping the ram and cutting vents on each side of the hood right in front of the filter? like 6" or a foot behind the highbeam.
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Sep 15, 2005 - 12:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 16, '04 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(ArizonaRed @ Sep 15, 2005 - 3:51 AM) how about keeping the ram and cutting vents on each side of the hood right in front of the filter? like 6" or a foot behind the highbeam. [right][snapback]334368[/snapback][/right] that sounds like more work, a odd looking hood, possible repaint, and dont forget that ud have to scoop the air in. as hood "vents" vent hot air rather then suck in hot air unless made to do so for another vent in the back to become more efficent. |
Sep 17, 2005 - 11:31 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From Thornton, CO. Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I recently dropped in a k&n filter on my st, it came with tubing so you could route some outside air directly to the filter element, would this help to eliminate the problem of heat? as the tube runs from the very front of the car by the air dam to the actual filter(a few inches away)
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Sep 17, 2005 - 12:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '03 From IL Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
i guess so...
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Sep 17, 2005 - 12:13 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '03 From IL Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
my question is, if you have longer piping, wouldn't that make the response of the intake slower -> causing no low-end torque?
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Sep 17, 2005 - 1:16 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
QUOTE(LewFX @ Sep 13, 2005 - 4:48 PM) i got a new version cai, stay tuned for pics..cost is $0 as well. [right][snapback]333773[/snapback][/right] i just eliminated the big box that goes under...the sucks in more air and is filtered out, no more worries of the cai coming loose...its still cold air, not too long and not too short..its purrrrrrfect. i could put a pipe on the end and a filter but now it looks stock and will pass smog inspections too! -------------------- |
Sep 17, 2005 - 3:25 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 7, '04 From Antioch, Norcal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well I finished the install, pain in the ass but sounds better, feels a lil bit better 'specially on the freeway here are some pics, BTW my engines inbetween coats =)
This post has been edited by Vibe: Sep 17, 2005 - 3:59 PM |
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