Superstrut Suspension, ST202 - ST205 suspention Options

[Nial]

The wrc car argument is still not valid, .

Exactly correct....because the TTE WRC rally cars did not use Superstrut, they may have very early on, but it was soon removed and replaced with McPherson set up

[BonzaiCelica]

how much did you lower those TRD Coilovers when you went to the track, or did you not adjust the height?? Do the TRD have rebound adjustment as well???

they were pretty much as low as was practical, what measurement compared to stock that was i dont know, at a guess maybe 2 inches, maybe more even. They are single adjustable, i would have thought it adjusts both bound and rebound together, the kyb inserts have 4 adjustment settings to cover a range of different spring rates from 6kg/mm to 16kg/mm up front and 4kg/mm to 10kg/mm at the rear.

What i'm looking into is converting the original superstrut by hacking them apart and welding on a sleeve with adjustable spring platform and using a double adjustable insert to get both rebound and bound adjustment, pretty much identical job to the way its done on the front struts of an ae86 for example. Still waiting to see what some other suspension company's can do in terms of taking the original strut and converting it before commiting to either route though.

ahh now I see what you mean Edophus. I just took a look at the trd website and always wondered why there where so many different springs to choose from. Stock the TRD Coilover kit comes with 8kg and 6kg for the ST202 and back then when TRD did make the other stiffer coil springs you could buy them and them adjust the dampening rate. Hmm clever stuff.

[Edophus]

The wrc car argument is still not valid, .

Exactly correct....because the TTE WRC rally cars did not use Superstrut, they may have very early on, but it was soon removed and replaced with McPherson set up

not exactly what i meant, the superstrut they did use on the tte wrc cars bears no resemblance to the superstrut of the road cars, so the comparison is pointless.

Bonzai i think you should just go for the tein mcpherson struts it will be cheaper and easier less deliberation!

This post has been edited by Edophus: Dec 13, 2010 - 3:59 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

The wrc car argument is still not valid, .

Exactly correct....because the TTE WRC rally cars did not use Superstrut, they may have very early on, but it was soon removed and replaced with McPherson set up

not exactly what i meant, the superstrut they did use on the tte wrc cars bears no resemblance to the superstrut of the road cars, so the comparison is pointless.

Bonzai i think you should just go for the tein mcpherson struts it will be cheaper and easier less deliberation!

yea man that's what I'm going for a little mishap with the celica today is made me come to reasoning that, that will be my setup. oh well life goes on

[boyota]

Hello there

I'm going to replace the "camper control link" and "lower arm no. 1" on my GT-Four.

Is there only OEM parts for that, or it there some performance replacements part out there in the world

/Boyota

[nsxtypeR]

Just OEM parts

[BonzaiCelica]

guide to converting superstrut to mcerphson will be made in separate thread. link below...

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...p;#entry1030522

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Nov 7, 2013 - 1:24 AM

[nsxtypeR]

Axles are different. The superstrut hubs have 21 splines instead of the 20 splines on the macpherson setup

[BonzaiCelica]

don't worry nsxtype r is wrong continue reading down the whole thread. you'll see proof there.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 16, 2013 - 12:49 AM

[yungazzdriver]

wait, I read somwhere that st204 and st205 hubs are interchangeable,.........no the aren't?

[BonzaiCelica]

yes dude the hubs are the same, so in turn if you read the whole thread you'll see the american axles S54 fitting into gt4 knuckle.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Sep 16, 2013 - 12:49 AM

[yungazzdriver]

So how would i go about making the super strut suspension work with american axles they are more available. Im thinking no way unless changing the knuckle but then nothing will bolt on......maybe ill just have to get st205 outers?

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Apr 19, 2011 - 8:43 AM

[yungazzdriver]

Never mind I just read up on the how to change from super strut to mcpherson. The problem I had was I'm doing rhd conversion and had super strut suspension and all. At first I ws going to do the awd then I decided just to do lsd fwd. Now I thought I needed to keep the whole front suspension to do the rhd conversion but the I needed to order ksport for the st205 and ksport for st204. After I read the how to, I will keep my current setup and use the rack n pinion from the st205 and custom tie rods....along with the st205 brakes using all the st204 parts and this way all I need to order is the ksport pro coilovers for a gt celica. Hopefully this will work right.

[BonzaiCelica]

edophus what type of sway bars were you running when you were racing the type r on the track??

[Edophus]

edophus what type of sway bars were you running when you were racing the type r on the track??

stock bars for that track and my tyres they were just perfect, stiffer isnt always better.

[jordisonjr]

Did every Gt four (st205) come from factory with superstrut?

[nsxtypeR]

Yes

[jordisonjr]

So if you find a gtfour for sale with after market Macpherson style coilovers, that means it has been converted from superstrut to macpherson by the previous owner?

[Neon90424]

yes or its an alltrac

[nsxtypeR]

That's correct. Many 6th gen GTFOUR owners did swap to McPherson. For this setup there's a lot of aftermarket choice that also is affordable. Superstrut coilovers are rare and very expensive.

This post has been edited by nsxtypeR: Jun 18, 2011 - 1:35 PM