How To Drive Proffessionally Options

[coustoe]

Hey, anyone know of some resources you can get on how to drive like they do in the movies.

[97sccelica]

there are classes that several places offer.

run some searches on offensive driving techniques.

Why is it you want to know? you cant do any of that stuff on public roads, or at least busy ones

[ghostdog]

http://www.turnfast.com/

find an empty lot and practice practice practice

[Supersprynt]

Learn the basics of how a car will react to this that and the other thing - i am dying to go to Skip Barber Driving School - but mucho dinero

[aaronc222]

Driving school is good, but driving like in the movies is something you can either do, or you can't.

I've been making e-brake turns since I was 17 driving my Hyundai. I'd drive in the snow and do 360s in the middle of the street and keep going...

Basically, you need to learn how to shift the weight and control it. Whenever you turn, the weight shifts. The key is getting all that weight to shift the way you want it to.

[shifter]

first of all u got to figure out your driving style, cause people who drive a FF, FR or AWD car all drive

differently, and u have to learn to utilize your cars special atribute. It's always cool to go to driving school

but HEY!!! too expensive. The best thing u can do is experiment (not on the busy roads now). The more

experimenting the better u get, then after awhile u figure out where each technique applies.

if u want to see some cool tricks go to jamauto .com they should have some cool videos and driving tricks in

the videos and photos section

[Charlie97L]

QUOTE (aaronc222 @ May 1, 2003 - 7:59 PM)

Driving school is good, but driving like in the movies is something you can either do, or you can't. I've been making e-brake turns since I was 17 driving my Hyundai. I'd drive in the snow and do 360s in the middle of the street and keep going... Basically, you need to learn how to shift the weight and control it. Whenever you turn, the weight shifts. The key is getting all that weight to shift the way you want it to.

i just can't believe that you'd do any of that on a public road. good lord. i hope no one has to die to make you realize your idiocy.

This post has been edited by Charlie97L: May 3, 2003 - 7:44 PM

[Guest_Matthew_*]

thats what i was gonna say...

no matter how much control you say or think that you have over a car...there is no way that you can fully control a spinning 2500 pound car on a slippery (or not) surface...

[aaronc222]

QUOTE (Charlie97L @ May 3, 2003 - 1:26 PM)

QUOTE (aaronc222 @ May 1, 2003 - 7:59 PM) Driving school is good, but driving like in the movies is something you can either do, or you can't. I've been making e-brake turns since I was 17 driving my Hyundai. I'd drive in the snow and do 360s in the middle of the street and keep going... Basically, you need to learn how to shift the weight and control it. Whenever you turn, the weight shifts. The key is getting all that weight to shift the way you want it to. i just can't believe that you'd do any of that on a public road. good lord. i hope no one has to die to make you realize your idiocy.

Not on highways or anything. On deserted streets, or with more than enough room. The only thing I could ever hit would be a tree or a ditch. It was common to see kids in parking lots practicing this sort of thing in Kansas during the winter.

The only way to get better at something is to do it. You think you're going to learn to drive better by going the speed limit and obeying all the rules?

If you want to start something, feel free. But I have yet to even have a 'close call' because I practice a little something called discretion. I don't show off for anyone but myself(unless a passenger requests it without me saying something) and I always make sure there are no other cars around. Not everyone who drives wildly does so for attention, some of us actually do it for ourselves. It's a challenge.

[aaronc222]

QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ May 3, 2003 - 4:05 PM)

thats what i was gonna say... no matter how much control you say or think that you have over a car...there is no way that you can fully control a spinning 2500 pound car on a slippery (or not) surface...

Forgot about this part. There is always a small amount of control that you have to give up to achieve certain things. The better the driver, the more control he/she has over the situation. There are many things, like drifting for example, that require a moment of 'no control', but as long as you control the car properly to 'set up', than you really are in control even when you aren't.

[No0bOne]

Well said AAron.

[Charlie97L]

QUOTE (aaronc222 @ May 4, 2003 - 8:38 AM)

QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ May 3, 2003 - 4:05 PM) thats what i was gonna say... no matter how much control you say or think that you have over a car...there is no way that you can fully control a spinning 2500 pound car on a slippery (or not) surface... Forgot about this part. There is always a small amount of control that you have to give up to achieve certain things. The better the driver, the more control he/she has over the situation. There are many things, like drifting for example, that require a moment of 'no control', but as long as you control the car properly to 'set up', than you really are in control even when you aren't.

yes, i totally agree, that was well said. my point was really that there are a lot of younger kids on this board, who don't have the discretion to differentiate between when it's safe to do something like that, and when it's not. from what you have said, it sounds like you are a very responsible driver. i just worry that someone asking "how to drive like they do in the movies" isn't going to be responsible enough or mature enough to determine when it's ok to drift around a corner, and when it's not.

This post has been edited by Charlie97L: May 4, 2003 - 6:14 PM

[aaronc222]

Kids will always be kids. When I started, I had a lot less discretion than I do now. At first I was only worried about the cops. Now I worry more about the other idiots on the road(like the Exploders who don't see you and try to cut over, causing you to swerve and slam the brakes, only to end up flipping themselves on the next corner, seen this scenario played out more than once).

Just so you know, I am a bit sarcastic most of the time. And I believe firmly in survival of the fittest. So don't take what I say too harshly. I don't lie, or try to sound smart, but I will help those in need.

[CelicaSX]

Don't mean to sound like anyones father but.......

One thing is certain....no one is the best driver in the world & has even some control over a vehicle pushed beyond what it was designed to... drive normally on streets and slow down on corners etc....even with mods.

No matter what any of you say even the best, with the best equipment & experience die.....Have any of you heard of Possom Bourne?
He was until a week or two ago one of the worlds best rally drivers...( I think he even used to race GT4's in Asia Rally serise a few years back) He died in a rally crash, on a road he knew, with the best equipment money could buy & with many more years experiance than any of us...

One thing to remember is a car will not do the same thing in the same way every time. meaning different road surfaces make the car do different things, the difference between having a full tank of fuel on one occasion or an empty one make the car behave differently when you push it.
You may not notice these things in everyday driving, but when you go beyond the safe limits these type of variables are multiplied 10 fold.

I only offer this advice to those over confident drivers as I almost lost my brother when his turbo sports vehicle that he knew well got into a situation on the Great Ocean Rd in Victoria Australia, where the road condition changed unexpectedly while cornering & caused the car to slide, but when he was trying to correct the slide the road surface changed again & caused the car grip & then over correct and throw the car into the other direction.
The only problem being the other direction was an edge of a steep cliff about 250mtrs down to the ocean & rocks....He was lucky to have lived....

Just for the record he wasn't speeding either....

Don't fool yourself - when you push beyond the limits you stop being the driver and become a passanger...!

[CelicaSX]

QUOTE (aaronc222 @ May 4, 2003 - 8:38 AM)

QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ May 3, 2003 - 4:05 PM) thats what i was gonna say... no matter how much control you say or think that you have over a car...there is no way that you can fully control a spinning 2500 pound car on a slippery (or not) surface... Forgot about this part. There is always a small amount of control that you have to give up to achieve certain things. The better the driver, the more control he/she has over the situation. There are many things, like drifting for example, that require a moment of 'no control', but as long as you control the car properly to 'set up', than you really are in control even when you aren't.

You can't count on that everytime. Once you give up control either volantry or involantry there are no guarentees your gonna get it back..not matter how well you set it up or if you are a better driver.

Don't live that delusion....The better drivers are the drivers that don't put themselves or ther cars into no control situations.

An even better driver can see ahead in his mind what will or could happen if he puts himself or his car into a situation then backs off after assessing the risk to himself, others, other peoples property, other people lives, the live of his and other peoples families and loved one's for the the rest of their lives...

[aaronc222]

Always gotta be some PC people everywhere.

The main point to remember is the same one that good bikers remember. Once you stop being afraid, you will crash. Without the fear, there is no adrenaline. Without the adrenaline, there is no edge. Without the edge, you can't react quick enough to do squat.

I have come out of more situations than I can count just by trusting my instincts. Sure, I could die at any given point in time. If I was that afraid of death I wouldn't even get out of bed in the morning. But death is something that will happen no matter what, so why worry about it. The only lives I care about are the innocent bystanders, which is why I don't 'show off' in populated areas.

Say what you want, but road conditions don't just magically change. If there is sand or water in the road, nothing changed, it was there before your tires slipped on it.

The only bad experience I've had was before I really got in to racing/cars. My 85 Celica(may she rest in peace) was RWD, I didn't know jack about driving a RWD car, and it was raining. I was going through some S turns(posted speed drops from 45 to 25 for them, there is normally at least 1 teenage death a year there) at about 30 when the ass end decided to start slipping. Being used to FWD, I turned into it and slammed the gas. Big mistake. Next thing I know I did a 540 and ended up facing the other direction. Pretty scary, but it didn't stop me from driving. It showed me that I needed to learn more and prepare for situations like that.

Please don't assume that just because I play, I don't have any common sense. Yes I know 'playing' is very dangerous, which is why I do it when no one else is around. If I did it to impress people, I probably wouldn't be around right now.

[95STCelica]

The same thing happened to me two nights ago when I was driving my friends RWD 280z, damn that was scary and fun at the same time!

[94Toy]

If you guys think that you will leave a corner faster by entering it as fast as you can you are wrong you want to enter the corner at a speed that will not make the car get loose because if you do then you spin the tires and don't go anywhere. Enter a corner at a speed comfortable for the car get to the apex of the corner and then give it all you got. But not around people or other cars go out of town when you go drive like this it's not very smart to be city traffic and drive like a bat outa hell.
John

[Rivo]

Text book answer!

[aaronc222]

QUOTE (94Toy @ May 6, 2003 - 8:13 PM)

If you guys think that you will leave a corner faster by entering it as fast as you can you are wrong you want to enter the corner at a speed that will not make the car get loose because if you do then you spin the tires and don't go anywhere. Enter a corner at a speed comfortable for the car get to the apex of the corner and then give it all you got. But not around people or other cars go out of town when you go drive like this it's not very smart to be city traffic and drive like a bat outa hell. John

No one ever mentioned entering a corner fast. But it is a good point.

Not to mention I forgot to add something. The reason people die or lose control so badly is that they outdrive themselves. They try to be faster than they can handle. You have to know your limits. Even if you're the best in the world, you can still only react so fast.