hurricane katrina, help if you can Options

[Jdog1385]

http://www.redcross.org/

the gulf coast needs our help and support.

[Jen]

$50 here.

[kristinw85]

i work at bank one and we have an account for the red cross i donate to that

[reborn0323]

salvation army is also taking donations

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/

i'm from south louisiana in one of the areas affected - we were fortunate enough to make out with only shingle damage but it makes you realize how lucky you are when the news shows New Orleans and Miss

[Ryu3x16]

as broke as I am... 50 bucks to katrina's relief

[BlackCelicaGT94]

im embarrased for america - can u imagine if terrorists struck 5 cities at once with some fierce attack? we are so unprepared for such disasters!!

some lil girl came to the door today collecting money so i gave her 10 bucks!

In the word of Kanye West "Bush doesnt care about black people"

This post has been edited by BlackCelicaGT94: Sep 3, 2005 - 11:07 PM

[BlackCelicaGT94]

Kanye West at the NBC Concert for Hurricane Katrina Relief


Fuller transcript from Tracy and Eric: Kanye West at the NBC Concert for Hurricane Katrina Relief:

Mike Meyers reads off prompter … switches to black singer, Kanye West:

"I hate the way they portray us in the media.

"If you see a black family it says they are looting if you see a white family it says they are looking for food.

"And you know that it’s been 5 days because most of the people are black and even for me to complain … I would be a hypocrite because I would turn away from the TV because it’s too hard to watch. I’ve even been shopping before giving a donation and so right now I’m calling my business manager what is the biggest amount I can give.

"And just to imagine if I was down there, those are my people down there. So anybody out there who wants to help with the set up, the way that America is set up to help … The poor, the black people, the less well off as slow as possible. I mean, Red Cross is doing everything they can.

"We already realize a lot of the people that could help are at war now fighting another way and they’ve given them permission to go down and shoot us."

(Mike Meyers tries to get back on prompter, reads from script and then camera cuts back to Kanye. He pauses before

Kanye West: "George Bush doesn’t care about black people."

Then camera abruptly switches to another black actor

[WannabeGT4]

LOL! Kanye West is the most ignorant person alive. Hurricane Katrina and it's effect on the New Orleans area is simply the largest national disaster that the United States has ever dealt with. It is not solely decided by the president who is sent to help in these situations. Most of it is handled by FEMA. The Director of FEMA is the one that has made the mistakes if anyone has.
Does West realize the scope of this disaster? The hurricane was the size of Florida for God's sake. This simple-minded person cannot even begin to comprehend the resources that will be required for the relief efforts.
To say that the media portrays blacks in a negative way is dumb. If you see someone coming out of a store with a cart full of electronics when there isn't even any electricity they are going to be labeled as looters. Bags of shoes and clothes are not essential to survival either. It's not the media's fault that they are out there in the middle of the day knowingly robbing stores while cameras catch their every move. New Orleans has a very high African American population which, whether he wants to believe or not, is for the most part poverty stricken. Of course they'll be out there looting. It's like Christmas in the Fukcing ghetto.
And before anyone starts in about how they censored his comments from the West coast Re-broadcast and how it's a violation of his free speech (large debate on a local radio station). You have to think about the networks liability. Free speech doesn't even apply to network television. The networks owners and sponsors have final say over what is allowed to be aired.

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Sep 6, 2005 - 1:41 PM

[LewFX]

what wannabe said and then some. People who hate bush dont understand how hard it is to be a president and make the decesions he makes. the debt is high because of the war cost and now its gonna go up more to help out the people from katrina. the government has also given money to other country disaters and other misc stuff that has happned here. Just because it wasnt on the news doesnt mean its not happening. what about the sick ppl raping and beating kids during this. you wanna blame bush for them doing that too? give me a freggin break, if you wanna help out then go there and lend a hand. stop bashing bush and bash yourself for not lending a hand before any of this happened. do you donate your time to help someone else out, if we all helped each other out and stop being mean to others, we actually might be a nice nation. why do you think we have debts in our states and as a country because everyone wants the government to handle it, why wait for the government, you can help out anytime you want but do you?

[shin]

i donate wat i could. $250 for watever help i could provide.

[Jdog1385]

i donate wat i could. $250 for watever help i could provide.

good deal bro. i just donated 200 and gave some clothing to the salvation army.

lets just keep this on the help/donation side guys...start another topic if you want to debate about how the government (state and national) dealt with this tragic event.

[BlackCelicaGT94]

Please remember the pets that are being saved too

There are places you can donate too so they can get food for these pets that are in shelters as well

https://secure.hsus.org/01/disaster_relief_fund_2005

[Supersprynt]

LOL! Kanye West is the most ignorant person alive. Hurricane Katrina and it's effect on the New Orleans area is simply the largest national disaster that the United States has ever dealt with. It is not solely decided by the president who is sent to help in these situations. Most of it is handled by FEMA. The Director of FEMA is the one that has made the mistakes if anyone has.
Does West realize the scope of this disaster? The hurricane was the size of Florida for God's sake. This simple-minded person cannot even begin to comprehend the resources that will be required for the relief efforts.
To say that the media portrays blacks in a negative way is dumb. If you see someone coming out of a store with a cart full of electronics when there isn't even any electricity they are going to be labeled as looters. Bags of shoes and clothes are not essential to survival either. It's not the media's fault that they are out there in the middle of the day knowingly robbing stores while cameras catch their every move. New Orleans has a very high African American population which, whether he wants to believe or not, is for the most part poverty stricken. Of course they'll be out there looting. It's like Christmas in the Fukcing ghetto.
And before anyone starts in about how they censored his comments from the West coast Re-broadcast and how it's a violation of his free speech (large debate on a local radio station). You have to think about the networks liability. Free speech doesn't even apply to network television. The networks owners and sponsors have final say over what is allowed to be aired.
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Heres a lil tid bit. Know what the **** your talking about before you open your ignorant ass mouth. First ignorant statement was "Kanye west is the most ignorant person alive." Sorry, you take the cake there. He's spitting the truth. It was BLATANT how reports picked out white ppl and put them up on a pedestal and said the black people were "looting." It was right there for EVERYONE to see. So its not DUMB. Its the cold hard truth and for you to even try to deny the disrespect minorities get you my friend are the most ignorant person. The argument isnt whether people are looting or not, that happens. The problem is that the media was blatantly and igorantly racist. There were just as many white people looting as black, but because they were white they were "looking for food."

Heres another tid bit of info: BUSH CUT FEMA FUNDING!!!!!! Bush was the one who appointed the new leader of FEMA. A guy who has NO emergency experience. Bush is the one wanted to give them about 3 billion out of the 20 billion they requested to fix the levys that were known to be too weak for a category 3 or more hurricane which was on the list of 3 worst things that could happen to the US which was presented to him in 2001. What was the other 2? A large earthquake in LA and a terrorist attach in NYC. Woops Bush disregards all of it and what happens. We got screwed 2 times by this damn president and we can thank everyone who voted for this idiot. Bush was golfing the day the disaster started, how bout you go and you watch the interview with a govenor from Louisiana and you watch him break down in tears about absolutely nobody is helping down there. I swear to god im so angry at this administration and ignorant people who have no idea how badly the people are suffeeing and have no idea what President Bush did to help create this disaster.

So maybe you donate some money to make up for this stupid ass statement and STFU the rest of the day!

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Sep 7, 2005 - 8:34 PM

[BlackCelicaGT94]

^^ wow!! for once i loev what u gotta say super

[Supersprynt]

I coulda said that alot nicer and I apologize for some of the demeanor in which it is said but I get so angry when people talk about the wrong things and say oh this person is ignorant and that person is ignorant when thats got nothing to do with the actual facts. I have read the facts I have watched the interviews and the fact of the matter is Bush didnt give these people a chance to withstand such a disaster or even avoid one and its Bush at the heart of the problem.

[jojobombiest]

i totally agree with you super. i f'ing HATE bush. hence why i made this thread http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28712

[WannabeGT4]

Heres a lil tid bit. Know what the **** your talking about before you open your ignorant ass mouth. First ignorant statement was "Kanye west is the most ignorant person alive." Sorry, you take the cake there.
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LOL! I did go a little overboard. I don't know every person alive so I have to change that to: "He's incredibly ignorant."

He's spitting the truth. It was BLATANT how reports picked out white ppl and put them up on a pedestal and said the black people were "looting." It was right there for EVERYONE to see. So its not DUMB. Its the cold hard truth and for you to even try to deny the disrespect minorities get you my friend are the most ignorant person. The argument isnt whether people are looting or not, that happens. The problem is that the media was blatantly and igorantly racist.  There were just as many white people looting as black, but because they were white they were "looking for food."
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Do you live in New Orleans? Are you there now? Did you see with your own 2 eyes and count on your fingers and toes exactly how many white people you saw looting compared to the number of black people? I didn't think so. You've been watching the same TV as everyone else. So stop talking out your ass! Obviously there are more black people left in New Orleans, look at the people at the superdome and the people being bussed all over the country... black, so Obviously you'll see more of them looting and chances are they will be labled as such. I can't understand how blind you are to the truth.

Heres another ignorant ass statement. BUSH CUT FEMA FUNDING!!!!!! Bush was the one who appointed the new leader of FEMA. A guy who has NO emergency experience. Bush is the one wanted to give them about 3 billion out of the 20 billion they requested to fix the levys that were known to be too weak for a category 3 or more hurricane which was on the list of 3 worst things that could happen to the US which was presented to him in 2001. What was the other 2? A large earthquake in LA and a terrorist attach in NYC. Woops Bush disregards all of it and what happens. We got screwed 2 times by this damn president and we can thank everyone who voted for this idiot. Bush was golfing the day the disaster started, how bout you go and you watch the interview with a govenor from Louisiana and you watch him break down in tears about absolutely nobody is helping down there. I swear to god im so angry at this administration and ignorant people who have no idea how badly the people are suffeeing and have no idea what President Bush did to help create this disaster.

So maybe you donate some money to make up for this stupid ass statement and STFU the rest of the day!
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So you're trying to tell me it's bushes fault we had a hurricane? It's Bushes fault terrorists crashed two planes into the WTC. There is a little phrase that I like to hear occasionaly... Sh!t happens. If we're going to be shifting blame all day let's shift it to the people that built the levys in the first place. Why didn't they do it right the first time? If Bush is responsible for 9/11 then so is every passenger on those flights since they didn't do something about it.

[Supersprynt]

Ok im not going to do the quote thingy that takes too long. I'm just going to point out your mistakes. First, your rebuttle to my statement that "just as many white ppl are looting than black ppl..." Ok you say "are you there...no" Heres the problem. you arent there either. So you cant say oh your not there, so it must not be true. This is an invalid arguement. Go to college learn logic, come back.

Secondly. No, I did not say it was "Bushes fault we had a hurricane." You cant possibly assign blame for a natural occurrence. What I am doing, is saying that Bush is responsible for the amount of damage and loss of life. This is due to the cuts in FEMA that he himself did, and his changing of the FEMA administration with one which is insufficient, and the refusal to grant funds to a known problem which could have saved many many people. Do not twist words, it doesnt work when you argue with educated people. To address the levys, I dont know anything about he levys. But I do know one thing, things get worn out. These levys could have been built 100 years ago. I dont know. What I do know, is that the levys were known to be insufficent for a category 3 or stronger storm and this info was presented to bush as one of the top 3 disasters along with a NYC attack. Oh BTW: The 9/11 Commission found that NYC was being targeted well before it happened and this administration did nothing in lieu of it.

Finally, if you can say "**** happens" to 9/11 attacks, and this natural disaster, all I can say to you is please go find a heart because thats incredibley insensitive.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Sep 7, 2005 - 9:03 PM

[WannabeGT4]

Ok im not going to do the quote thingy that takes too long. I'm just going to point out your mistakes. First, your rebuttle to my statement that "just as many white ppl are looting than black ppl..." Ok you say "are you there...no" Heres the problem. you arent there either. So you cant say oh your not there,  so it must not be true. This is an invalid arguement. Go to college. learn some stuff, then argue with me, because your wasting my time. Learn logic, come back.
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My point was you are blind to the facts. If you've been paying attention you'd have noticed the overwhelming amount of blacks left in New Orleans and that there is no way as many white people are looting as there are black people. It just isn't possible. You, sir, are the illogical one.

Secondly. No, I did not say it was "Bushes fault we had a hurricane." You cant possibly assign blame for a natural occurrence. What I am doing, is saying that Bush is responsible for the amount of damage and loss of life. This is due to the cuts in FEMA that he himself did, and his chnaging of the FEMA administration with one which is insufficient. Do not twist words, it doesnt work when you argue with educated people. To address the levys, I dont know anything about he levys. But I do know one thing, things get worn out. These levys could have been built 100 years ago. I dont know. What I do know, is that the levys were known to be insufficent for a category 3 or stronger storm and this info was presented to bush as one of the top 3 disasters along with a NYC attack.
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Hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to say their priorities were wrong after this hurricane.

Oh BTW: The 9/11 Commission  found that NYC was being targeted well before it happened and this administration did nothing in lieu of it.
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Doesn't mean they could have stopped it. NY is huge. Good luck securing it all.

Finally, if you can say "**** happens" to 9/11 attacks, and this natural disaster, all I can say to you is please go find a heart because thats incredibley insensitive.
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That's life. Sad but true. Some times there is simply nothing you can do. If you don't like it /yourself, it's not going to change.

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Sep 7, 2005 - 9:06 PM

[Jdog1385]

terrorist bombings of the World Trade Center in 1993. if thats not a red flag then what is? no administration tackled terrorism in the US. We were too ignorant to think that something like 9/11 terrorist attacks could happen to us.

but seriously guys lets argue this on another thread.

http://www.habitat.org/

http://national.unitedway.org/