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post May 11, 2003 - 4:14 PM
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Do you guys inform your insurance company when you swapped your engine? If so how much increase did it go up by?
post May 11, 2003 - 4:33 PM
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Ok well theres the deal - ur insurance will go up, most likely. If u dont tell them, ur engine isnt insured, and all the money and work u put into it goes out the window.


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post May 11, 2003 - 5:48 PM
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Some insurance companies may be scared to insure you...I didn't tell them...If I wreck my car...it's not going to cover it anyway.
post May 11, 2003 - 8:04 PM
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I talked with my insurance guy about insuring upgrades. He said with an engine swap, you might want to let them know, and for sure keep reciepts of how much you paid, etc. He said he usually won't up the insurance, just because the class of the car is still the same or something.


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post May 11, 2003 - 8:17 PM
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well this is quite an arguement...turbo cars usually cost more than non turbo but according to your vin its still a non turboed car. and from what i know that is what insurance goes by. not color not anything else. just the vin and your driving record.

so technically they can not raise your insurance to make you pay for a car that you dont have or cant even buy in the U.S.

thats my take on things.
post May 11, 2003 - 8:19 PM
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QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ May 11, 2003 - 5:31 PM)
well this is quite an arguement...turbo cars usually cost more than non turbo but according to your vin its still a non turboed car. and from what i know that is what insurance goes by. not color not anything else. just the vin and your driving record.

so technically they can not raise your insurance to make you pay for a car that you dont have or cant even buy in the U.S.

thats my take on things.

Yah they go by VIN...and with that in mind...they aren't going to insure something for more than what it's worth correct?
post May 11, 2003 - 9:19 PM
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VIN number yes, but a turbocharger does in fact jack up the rates. Call and get a quote for a Impreza RS and an Impreza WRX. You'll notice the difference because of the turbo. I imagine if you said you were swapping in another engine that didn't have a turbo (3sge) they wouldn't be as harsh to you. I shall see when I do it this week.
post May 11, 2003 - 10:21 PM
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my friend got a wrx and his insurance actually got cheaper than it was on his 95 gs eclipse with minor mods...his insurance company considered the WRX more of a family car since it was 4 doors and AWD so he was only paying 99 bucks a month for full coverage on it and was pain like 150 a month on the eclipse
post May 11, 2003 - 10:22 PM
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post May 12, 2003 - 7:14 AM
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Okay guys I just talked to my insurance broker and she told me that if I swapped my engine they would not insure me at all. She told me that the engine has to be made for the vehicle. However you guys are correct about they only charge you by the VIN to determine what type of vehicle it is but remember if you don't tell them things you won't be insured in the end... If I still do it and not tell them if I get into any accident I would be fully liable. (Shiet) So now what guys? I talked to this dude that said he can do the 3SGTE 4th generation motor conversion for me for 6-7 thousand Canadian which is pretty cheap to me. Man I want to do it but I don't wanna get screwed in the end one day.
post May 12, 2003 - 7:57 AM
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QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ May 11, 2003 - 8:31 PM)
not color not anything else. just the vin and your driving record.


Thats incorrect, you get higher insurance for being a boy, u get higher insurance for having a red car also.


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post May 12, 2003 - 10:48 AM
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QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ May 11, 2003 - 8:31 PM)
not color not anything else. just the vin and your driving record.



Thats incorrect, you get higher insurance for being a boy, u get higher insurance for having a red car also.


Supersprynt is correct on the color. Color does matter for your insurance. With a red car you will pay more than if you had a black or silver. Although, when you get a custom color, lets say a Supra Orange, does that change your insurance or is it just based upon red?
post May 12, 2003 - 1:06 PM
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I imagine that if you told them you were getting a custom color, you're up to no good wink.gif
post May 12, 2003 - 1:59 PM
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QUOTE (White_GTS @ May 12, 2003 - 4:28 AM)
Okay guys I just talked to my insurance broker and she told me that if I swapped my engine they would not insure me at all. She told me that the engine has to be made for the vehicle. However you guys are correct about they only charge you by the VIN to determine what type of vehicle it is but remember if you don't tell them things you won't be insured in the end... If I still do it and not tell them if I get into any accident I would be fully liable. (Shiet) So now what guys? I talked to this dude that said he can do the 3SGTE 4th generation motor conversion for me for 6-7 thousand Canadian which is pretty cheap to me. Man I want to do it but I don't wanna get screwed in the end one day.

I'd still do it but if u get into a accident...u sure they're gonna look at ur engine or the dmg on ur car? =P
post May 12, 2003 - 3:30 PM
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I heard you do not have to tell them at all, but the engine will not be insured. you would most likely be able to pull the engine out but you would need to replace the original engine (who wants to keep an old engine lieing around...) another thing is you could just buy your damaged car back from the insurance company. Also as long as you do not lie if they ask you a question your car is insured, with an engine swap, nitrous, whatever... just if they ask you need to tell the truth, but dont reveal more then you have to.
post May 12, 2003 - 6:23 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 12, 2003 - 5:11 AM)
QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ May 11, 2003 - 8:31 PM)
not color not anything else.  just the vin and your driving record. 


Thats incorrect, you get higher insurance for being a boy, u get higher insurance for having a red car also.

my insurance company has never asked anyone in my family what color our cars are.....
post May 12, 2003 - 10:53 PM
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don't know about other states, but here in louisiana, insurance doesn't go by color. I talked to my friend's dad thats an insurance salesman and he says its not true. It's power of car, theft rate, and how much it cost to repair. Toyota has high theft rate and parts are expensive thats y we are charged more than a ford.
post May 12, 2003 - 11:07 PM
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yea to disappoint you all but insurance does not go by color.

anyone who disagrees my sister (state farm agent) can call you and tell you otherwise.

and yea i do admit

it goes by your ssn..vin..

thats it.
post May 13, 2003 - 12:07 AM
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Telling your insurance company that you have just installed a turbo engine (most likely from japan) is like telling an officer you have a loaded gun in your glove department, You may get off easier in the long run if he checks the glove departmen but what are the chances hes going to check it without any reason? thats sorta how I see insurance and engine swapping.
post May 13, 2003 - 12:52 AM
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I didn't tell my insurance shiznit.

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