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 Oct 25, 2005 - 1:09 AM
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http://www.fullthrottlespeed.com/items~Cc~...s~0~Tp~~Bc~.htm
i found this product after seeing it installed on a local dsm. it takes your afm and converts it to a map signal for only 200$. problem is they dont have one for the 3sgte. i contaced the company about it and found out that they are in the process of adding 3sgte support to it. this is great news for any swaper!!! -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Oct 25, 2005 - 1:17 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Sweet!
-------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Oct 25, 2005 - 9:42 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '04 From Northern New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
oh hell yah...great find lagos! that damn afm is real annoying...lol
bboy --------------------  ..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi.. |
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Oct 25, 2005 - 11:16 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Bulletproof had an option way back where you had to send them your ECU, they would then send it to Japan and I think jspeed reprogramed it to ditch the AFM. You could contact roo and see if its still available if your in a hurry to get rid of that ugly box.
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Oct 25, 2005 - 1:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
last i remeber reading, that roo guy screwed a few people over.
i like this unit because they can also offer the ability to change between 440cc and 550cc injector tune, a way to control tvis, etc. if there are any features you guys are looking for, let me know because ive been keeping in contact with them and they are asking for my input on what we woul want. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Oct 25, 2005 - 1:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Interesting, but I am skeptical.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Oct 25, 2005 - 2:07 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '03 From Wichita, KS Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Also skeptikal. Looks like they do mostly MAF translation not MAP. If a MAF sensor is required you might as well add another $80 to $130... Not so apealing now. For $300+ I'd go with a megasquirt but that's just my opinion.
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Oct 25, 2005 - 2:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(jgreening @ Oct 25, 2005 - 1:53 PM) Interesting, but I am skeptical. [right][snapback]348869[/snapback][/right] that it would work or that they will make it? -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Oct 25, 2005 - 2:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 25, 2005 - 2:20 PM) QUOTE(jgreening @ Oct 25, 2005 - 1:53 PM) Interesting, but I am skeptical. [right][snapback]348869[/snapback][/right] that it would work or that they will make it? [right][snapback]348875[/snapback][/right] That it would work well. I do not subscribe to the school of thought that the AFM should be replaced on applications with less than 270whp. Past 300-310whp, the user SHOULD get a standalone EMS and convert to a MAP based system. From 270-310 whp, there is some debate about what can and should be done. However, if you are going with an upgraded fuel system, piecing a car together with black boxes like this thing or an AFC, timing boxes, VPC, etc. etc., you are significantly increasing the risk to your engine. The only way I would go to a setup without a standalone in this power range is if I had 540's or 550's and got a ROM tune from ATS with the AFM in place. Even then, the ATS 550 ROM tune has only been on the market a few months so the longevity has not been tested. I also have not seen many reports about how well it works except from the vendors. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Nov 2, 2005 - 1:29 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '04 From Brooklyn moved to Miramar Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
some 1 get it ......
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Nov 2, 2005 - 1:34 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
they didnt make one for our car yet, but they are working on it
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Nov 2, 2005 - 4:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '04 From Northern New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
CodingParadox from alltrac.net is also working on eliminating the AFM with good results. u might wunna check it out over there at alltrac.net lagos. as for me, im gunna eliminate my AFM with a "__________"
 bboy -------------------- ..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi.. |
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Nov 2, 2005 - 4:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
yeah so is nuke over at celicatech. between all these people we should at least get something out of it.
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Nov 3, 2005 - 6:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '04 From Northern New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
yah one of these guys will succeed in it eventually and the end product should be better than the afm...hopefully...lol
bboy -------------------- ..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi.. |
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