3S GZE Options

[macavely]

well i know this has been talked about before.. but it has been a while.. and just wondering if anyone has seen it done yet... or is planning on doing it soon.... if i lived in a perfect world my gt would have a 3s ge engine in it... and i would be putting a vortech supercharger in it.... 3s should handle the extra power well... but if i or anyone in my family wins the lotto u know what i will be doing....

3S GE Black top with vortech supercharger...

[celicaST]

sounds good! superchargers kick ass, o and if you win that lotto, hook me up.

[BLADDER_MASTER]

well i know this has been talked about before.. but it has been a while.. and just wondering if anyone has seen it done yet... or is planning on doing it soon....  if i lived in a perfect world my gt would have a 3s ge engine in it... and i would be putting a vortech supercharger in it....  3s should handle the extra power well...  but if i or anyone in my family wins the lotto u know what i will be doing....

3S GE Black top with vortech supercharger...
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Add "Convert engine to FWD" on your "To Do" list.

[purplegt4]

Add "Convert engine to FWD" on your "To Do" list.
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wutchu talkin bout willis?

[macavely]

well i know this has been talked about before.. but it has been a while.. and just wondering if anyone has seen it done yet... or is planning on doing it soon....  if i lived in a perfect world my gt would have a 3s ge engine in it... and i would be putting a vortech supercharger in it....  3s should handle the extra power well...  but if i or anyone in my family wins the lotto u know what i will be doing....

3S GE Black top with vortech supercharger...
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Add "Convert engine to FWD" on your "To Do" list.
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huh?? no engine is the engine doesn't make a car FWD /RWD / AWD ... that the drive train that does that... and engine is and engine .. it just supplies the power to move the wheels... the way its mounted in car with the tranny is what makes it rwd or fwd or awd... the black top 3sge can be drop into a fwd celi just as easy at any other S block ..

[BLADDER_MASTER]

Ever bothered taking a look at the intake and exhaust manifolds of a Blacktop 3S-GE? Also the Altezza engines sit straight in the engine bay while the Celica/MR2 engines sit tilted.

[Dr_Tweak]

Ever bothered taking a look at the intake and exhaust manifolds of a Blacktop 3S-GE? Also the Altezza engines sit straight in the engine bay while the Celica/MR2 engines sit tilted.
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One would likely have to use the redtop intake and exhaust manifolds. As long as the block bolts up the the tranny, it will be held at the correct angle... assuming that the oiling system is okay with that.

-Doc

[Blakout16]

if he has that much money he might as well make it rwd while he's at it... what only 10k more isnt it?

[BLADDER_MASTER]

if he has that much money he might as well make it rwd while he's at it... what only 10k more isnt it?
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I think he should save himself some trouble by putting in a Redtop instead.

[Mr_E]

Yes, as I noted in the other thread, I've seen a 3S-GZE. It went well.

[95CelicaST]

if he has that much money he might as well make it rwd while he's at it... what only 10k more isnt it?
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I think he should save himself some trouble by putting in a Redtop instead.
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Why don't we stop stomping on Mac's dream huh?

[macavely]

no let them cause those are the kinda of people that are to scared to try anything and put others down for thinking about it.... but let them.... seeing as they are the ones that will pay for it if i ever do end up doing that swap... oooh no wait.... (see middle finger raise up above my head as they watch ... and smack said my foot there left testical ... they arent so they can say its to much trouble to much money not worth it... but really who give a damn????

[BLADDER_MASTER]

if he has that much money he might as well make it rwd while he's at it... what only 10k more isnt it?
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I think he should save himself some trouble by putting in a Redtop instead.
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Why don't we stop stomping on Mac's dream huh?
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I'm not stomping on his dream. He can still do it, it's possible. But I think he would be better off with a Redtop BEAMS 3S-GE. Think about it like this:

1. He gets a Blacktop BEAMS 3S-GE
2. Has to change out the intake and exhaust manifolds and might have some oil issues. Also the wiring is going to be more of a pain in the ass because the wiring is for a Altezza.
3. Then needs to install the S/C.

Now if he gets a Redtop 3S-GE:
1. Gets the engine
2. Doesn't need to change out the intake and exhaust manifolds because they're already meant for FWD application. And since the Redtop 3S-GE came in a Celica, the wiring wouldn't be much of a hassle compared to a Blacktop.
3. Then install the S/C.

What I want to know is, why the Blacktop? What is so wrong with the Redtop? Is it just because the Blacktop has Dual VVT-i? Or is it because it makes 10 more PS? Explain that please.

[BLADDER_MASTER]

no let them cause those are the kinda of people that are to scared to try anything  and put others down for thinking about it.... but let them.... seeing as they are the ones that will pay for it if i ever do end up doing that swap... oooh no wait.... (see middle finger raise up above my head as they watch ... and smack said my foot there left testical ... they arent so they can say its to much trouble to much money not worth it...  but really who give  a damn????
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wtf!?!? Ok guy. I'm probably one of the only few who has attempted and completed a 3rd gen 3S-GE swap into a 5th gen Celica. What have you done?

[macavely]

if he has that much money he might as well make it rwd while he's at it... what only 10k more isnt it?
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I think he should save himself some trouble by putting in a Redtop instead.
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Why don't we stop stomping on Mac's dream huh?
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I'm not stomping on his dream. He can still do it, it's possible. But I think he would be better off with a Redtop BEAMS 3S-GE. Think about it like this:

1. He gets a Blacktop BEAMS 3S-GE
2. Has to change out the intake and exhaust manifolds and might have some oil issues. Also the wiring is going to be more of a pain in the ass because the wiring is for a Altezza.
3. Then needs to install the S/C.

Now if he gets a Redtop 3S-GE:
1. Gets the engine
2. Doesn't need to change out the intake and exhaust manifolds because they're already meant for FWD application. And since the Redtop 3S-GE came in a Celica, the wiring wouldn't be much of a hassle compared to a Blacktop.
3. Then install the S/C.

What I want to know is, why the Blacktop? What is so wrong with the Redtop? Is it just because the Blacktop has Dual VVT-i? Or is it because it makes 10 more PS? Explain that please.
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Its just a thought ...and unless your going to be right next to me doing the sawp and paying for all the cost don't give me reasons why i shouldn't.. give impute why its not possable to do this swap ... or give info on what steps to take in this swap ... and the black top ... just cause i want to ..no other reason needed

no let them cause those are the kinda of people that are to scared to try anything  and put others down for thinking about it.... but let them.... seeing as they are the ones that will pay for it if i ever do end up doing that swap... oooh no wait.... (see middle finger raise up above my head as they watch ... and smack said my foot there left testical ... they arent so they can say its to much trouble to much money not worth it...  but really who give  a damn????
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wtf!?!? Ok guy. I'm probably one of the only few who has attempted and completed a 3rd gen 3S-GE swap into a 5th gen Celica. What have you done?
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congrats on yours swap ... as for me.... your welcome to come over with me to my uncles house and u can sit down with him and sak him your self...

[celi94]

I've swaped a 3th gen. 3SGE in my celica (7afe engine)
For those who wanted to know, it isn't hard to do!

As for that, the next step is to put a turbo or a supercharger on it!
(and yes i can by a GT4 here in europe!)

But i want to have something that others don't have!

So all the information that others have about it, please post it!

Tony

[macavely]

I've swaped a 3th gen. 3SGE in my celica (7afe engine)
For those who wanted to know, it isn't hard to do!

As for that, the next step is to put a turbo or a supercharger on it!
(and yes i can by a GT4 here in europe!)

But i want to have something that others don't have!

So all the information that others have about it, please post it!

Tony
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do you have any pictures of your set up ?
did you have any problems with the mounts ?

[celi94]

I will post some pics when i'm home!

The only mount that was the same (7afe) is the front mount!
I've changed all the rest!

Usefull: I had an accident celica with the 3sge engine in at home, so the parts to do the swap where all there!