problem with my shocks, KYB Options

[TruXSaMuRai]

I bought these kybs off ebay. There was one problem on the side of the shocks where the two holes that are supposed to get drill back to the rotor or piece it connects. The holes are to far apart? those two holes are also further apart from each other comparing to the stocks shocks i took out. did anyone have these problems.

[soulshadow]

Umm, are you sure they aren't the rear shocks? If you bought them off of ebay, im pretty sure you got all 4 KYB's if I am correct?

Anyways, the ones that look like tubes (shock inserts) go in to the front of your car. You have to twist off you old shock inserts in the front struts and put in your new KYB's in. Make sure you add just a little oil into the holders where the inserts are gonna go.

The KYB Shocks/struts that look like the stock ones for the celica are actually for the rear. If you mix this up your pretty screwed if you went further and tried to force them on into your car.

If I am correct you should have the silver color KYB GR-2 Models right?
Look at the pictures!


These are actually for the front of the car, They are the shock Inserts!


These are the struts for the rear of the celica!


If you have something different than the stuff above, then I guess im out of advices. Perhaps you received the wrong type of struts? E-bay sellers tend to sell the cheap stuff and do it at half-AS

[Galcobar]

Sorry, Samurai, but I cannot figure out what you're talking about...the rotor isn't connect to the struts, the knuckle is -- rotor's connected to the knuckle -- and why would you have to drill holes in your shocks?

[TruXSaMuRai]

hey thanks for the tip soulshadow. yea i mixed the front and rear shocks up. ill try to put it on again on sat thanks man. later

[LewFX]

hopefully your fronts can twist off, mine couldnt and i had to find st ones that can.

[Galcobar]

Good how-to on dealing with the stubborn gland nuts:
http://www.turbomr2.com/MR2/HowTo/Suspensi...ringStrut-1.HTM

I used the vise + prybar method and it worked well. Just remember to only crack the nut, then get the old strut rightside up again so you don't lose the oil, which KYB wants you to use with the new inserts.

[LewFX]

my problem wasnt the gland nut, it was sealed over the cartidge, making it impossible to get out.

[Galcobar]

What was sealed, and how?

When I disassembled mine, had to remove the gland nut, which was difficult, then the oil seal, which was held in place by the nut, then the cartridge came out.

[LewFX]

there were 4 bent over like clip type pieces. i took pics of em a long time ago

[soulshadow]

there were 4 bent over like clip type pieces. i took pics of em a long time ago
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Mine were really easy to get out. I can't figure out why you guys would have so much problems removing the inserts. My shocks and struts were probbaly dead for like 4ever on that car when I bought it.

[soulshadow]

hey thanks for the tip soulshadow. yea i mixed the front and rear shocks up. ill try to put it on again on sat thanks man. later
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Gald I can help

[TruXSaMuRai]

so the shock inserts that are suppose to go in the front, i should take the old insert out the stock shocks and put these in and for the rear the new shocks and inserts should fit perfectly right? Thanks for the step by step page.

[Galcobar]

Please note the how-to is not for a Celica -- it's for an MR2. Celicas use full struts on the rears, so no swapping of cartridges is necessary.

[TruXSaMuRai]

i mean for the front. i just cant put the tein s springs over the cartrige can i?

[soulshadow]

i mean for the front. i just cant put the tein s springs over the cartrige can i?
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Thats not really gonna be effective without your old struts as a holder for the inserts. As long as you put in your new inserts your strut will become like new, provided that they aren't bent or rusted to the core. ******Make sure you dump the liquid in the struts and add a bit of new motor oil in it*****

The rear struts are a pain in da A*s. You will need some small vise grips to hold the nut on the sway bar links. so that you can remove the bolts tat hold the sway bar and the sturt together. (Its a piece of meatl 3-5 inches long and has rubber joints at the end of each section). You must be very careful, because they are probbaly stuck and rusted. The hardest thing is these are HEX bolts and if you screw up u will over thread the hexs. You would end up like me sawing off this little metal bar and buying 2 new ones. It costs nearly $50 and up a piece!

For the rear, I had a 2" drop in springs so I didn't really need the spring compressor when assembling the struts again.

any questions? put up another reply

[TruXSaMuRai]

man me and my uncle tried to put on the shocks today. and well everything went wrong. first the shocks that were for the rear. the ebay dude i got it from (jdmwerks) sent me 2 right side. that sucked. and for the strut cartridges for the front. Well we got them in the shock holder but the circular piece that is suppose to hold the struts onto the shocks tighly didnt fit but i still put it on like that. and now my car makes a metal tapping sound when i hit bumps on the road. i think ima just got to the dealer ship and order the front shocks and struts. that wayil know itll fit. and im gonna go get the left rear shock also. hopeffuly everything goes to plan

This post has been edited by TruXSaMuRai: Sep 19, 2005 - 2:01 AM

[Galcobar]

You didn't tighten the gland nut and you're driving on it?

Oh. My. God.

Betting that metal sound is the cartridge moving around inside the strut. This is bad.

The gland nut's not supposed to be all the way into the strut -- there's supposed to be a small amount of room between the end of the strut and the nut flange. RE-read the instructions KYB included. There's a lot of torque that has to be put on the nut. I had a 200-lb friend using a 16" bar to torque mine. No noise.

And jdmwerks will send you a replacement left strut...apparently it's best to call him. Why spend the extra money on Toyota parts when the KYB are the same, performance-wise, and you've already bought them?

[LewFX]

didnt you fill the empty shock with brake fluid and put the cartrige inside and then nut it?

[soulshadow]

didnt you fill the empty shock with brake fluid and put the cartrige inside and then nut it?
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Oh my gosh, even after that many posts with Underlined Tips. You forgot to add the oil to the cartridges?
Anyways, are you sure you got two of the same parts. You should have looked at the boxes the guysent you from e-bay. If they have the same part number then they are the same. If they are differen't then they are different! :p E-bay is one of the places where you should never do all your buying from. I should know better :mad:. (Gives the middle finger at ebay seller JDM_KRS). Shipping is probbaly gonna kill you when you send that thing back for an exchange.

[CelicaB]

so your supposed to add oil around the new front cartrage inserts? can i ask what the reson for this is?