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post May 9, 2003 - 6:15 AM
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Yep. and no

the silver top is crap.

but once slightly mod, it gets like the black top

I became a believer of the silver top at my mechanic start mods on it. It was unbelievable

Turbocharging the 20v in my opinion show more promise than the 4agze.

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post May 9, 2003 - 9:58 AM
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QUOTE (hi_rider @ May 8, 2003 - 2:17 AM)
GT2GT4, you have an amazing great looking color !!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif


hahha i'm sorry but I have to respond.....

did you see GT2GT4's "CAR"??????

( AKA Igotta5sfeturbo or something like that)

doesn't look anywhere like the one in his post....

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post May 9, 2003 - 10:05 AM
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why do you think the 20v has more promise than the gze? It's just not built for boost.
post May 9, 2003 - 11:37 AM
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I just find that here in BB, once you go forge pistons, the 20v behaves like a beast.

The most probably reasons are the 3 vavles which allows more air into the engine and the head shape and other little refinements and rotational masses.

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post May 9, 2003 - 2:14 PM
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Well, in my opinion, 600 bucks won't be enough to even acquire everything needed for either of the two swaps. The guy was asking about basic mods on the 5S-FE or the 7A-FE.
post May 9, 2003 - 11:18 PM
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true enough, but where could I find pistons to lower the 4age's CR?
post May 10, 2003 - 11:02 AM
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is it possible to put one of the 4A engines into a GT fairly cheaply (compared to the 3SGTE)?

And can some one give a straight answer, which is better the 4AGE balck top (165 HP) or the Late model 4AGZE with the 170 HP, since the 4AGE isnt supercharged, and has the unique 20 Valves and 4 throttle bodies/cylinder it should have more potential right? If I were to get the 4AGE, could I just supercharge it in the same way the 4AGZE is done (I know that the GE has a CR of like 10.3 and the GZE has a CR of 8.0 or something, but even running a tiny supercharger on the GE would yield more HP than the GZE has)
I'm really considering this as a swap, since I would love to see what I could do with the small 1.6 L and all those intakes when it comes time for tuning.

How come toyota built such a great small engine and then gave us cars that are pretty much all show and no go. I think the engine should reflect the appearence of the car, if it looks good make it fast.

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