Cheap Turbo? Options

[snapshotgt]

Hey guys and gals...i know this is a stupid question...but do all o' you know anyway of getting a good, cheap turbo for my car? - - - or anyway to give me a little more umph? - - - i'm not really interested going really,really fast...but more the torque, and acceleration i'm that kinda guy:)....the current plans i have are to install a greddy exusht and injen intake - - - but that total w/install will come to a hair under 1k - - - i have to think there is someway of getting more umph for around, or less than that price?...anyway look forward to hearing back! out-

[presure2]

do not cross post.
i answered your ? in the engine forum.

[snapshotgt]

Sorry, i'm new at this...and just messed up...

do not cross post.
i answered your ? in the engine forum.
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[MonsterBOX]

dude...theres no cheap way...well i mean there is but if you r gonna go turbo on ur engine and want results that dont kill ur engine ur gonna need to fork out the cash and set it up like pressure2

[creis]

Naw, just get an electronic turbo, it would give you a little more power when you want it (At the flip of a switch) and would not cost more then $150, I've done some resurtch on it and found it to not be a bad way to go for a few extra horses withough hurting the motor, (maybe 20 hp gains if done right)

[playr158]

*smack* *smack*

dude electric turbo's are the biggest bull crap ever don't really work that well, and i mean oo 10 sec and your battery is dead trying to run sum piece of junk.....

if you want a turbo do it right, research, read the stickies, and save your money

[snapshotgt]

electric turbos?...Tell me more...sounds interesting...

Naw, just get an electronic turbo, it would give you a little more power when you want it (At the flip of a switch) and would not cost more then $150, I've done some resurtch on it and found it to not be a bad way to go for a few extra horses withough hurting the motor, (maybe 20 hp gains if done right)
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[nik]

there crap

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

there crap
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I've been interested in these things for awhile. Mainly, because no one likes them. I did the research, and the consinsiss is, they don't work well enough for the money/drag. It's not a good mod for you car. They do work, but not much, and it causes a drain on your alternater. And anything that causes that much strain on the electircal system will end up breaking things. As far as mods for your car, you'll just half to search around here for them. I always say the same thing to new people; there's not a lot of bolt up mods to the Celica's, but there are a lot of close ones. 3sge manifold, custom exhaust, lowering springs (they are everywere), custom CAI (there's a nice how-to floating around here), Suspension tec sway bars, gt-4 rear stut brace and 95-99 dodge neon front strut brace. After all that, you have a fun street toy. If you want specifics on fitment issues and other more advanced mods, you'll have to do a search. Searching this forum is easy, and it's full of useful info. Just about every question you could ask, has already been answered. Good luck.

[nik]

there crap
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I've been interested in these things for awhile. Mainly, because no one likes them. I did the research, and the consinsiss is, they don't work well enough for the money/drag. It's not a good mod for you car. They do work, but not much, and it causes a drain on your alternater. And anything that causes that much strain on the electircal system will end up breaking things. As far as mods for your car, you'll just half to search around here for them. I always say the same thing to new people; there's not a lot of bolt up mods to the Celica's, but there are a lot of close ones. 3sge manifold, custom exhaust, lowering springs (they are everywere), custom CAI (there's a nice how-to floating around here), Suspension tec sway bars, gt-4 rear stut brace and 95-99 dodge neon front strut brace. After all that, you have a fun street toy. If you want specifics on fitment issues and other more advanced mods, you'll have to do a search. Searching this forum is easy, and it's full of useful info. Just about every question you could ask, has already been answered. Good luck.
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thats pretty much what i meant just didnt have the time to type it all out

[snapshotgt]

k, i think u guys have totally talked me out of it (although i was never really strongly thinking about it...) Unless creis come back with some really good info...i join you guys in saying these things are crap!

[nik]

k, i think u guys have totally talked me out of it (although i was never really strongly thinking about it...)  Unless creis come back with some really good info...i join you guys in saying these things are crap!
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if your looking for like 40whp+ do what presure2 did to his gt or you can swap or just do the basic bolt on which imoa wont give you much increase in power

This post has been edited by nik: Oct 21, 2005 - 6:01 PM

[snapshotgt]

I assume there is no way to beef up my car without spending thousands of $$?...i've got (being shipped to me right now) a cai...but other than that theres a greddy exhaust...anything else?


if your look for like 40whp+ do what presure2 did to his gt or you can swap or just do the basic bolt on which imoa wont give you much increase in power
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[nik]

[quote=snapshotgt,Oct 21, 2005 - 2:51 PM]
I assume there is no way to beef up my car without spending thousands of $$?...i've got (being shipped to me right now) a cai...but other than that theres a greddy exhaust...anything else?


if your look for like 40whp+ do what presure2 did to his gt or you can swap or just do the basic bolt on which imoa wont give you much increase in power
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i guess ask presure2 how much he has into his car also he did most if not all of the work on the car so if your not going to install the turbo or swap the price goes way up

[creis]

*smack* *smack*

Yeah yeah. I know but...

without spending thousands of $$?...

Baiicly yeah, its not easy to get that much hp. but lowing springs a sway bars are not gana get you any closer, wile they are pretty good mods if you want to take turns a big quicker.

anyway I love how everyone just beats down on the electronic turbo, calling it bs. now I'm not gana argue with you guys because I know there not the best thing to do, there is nothing like putting a real turbo on, however this is my problem and why a e-turbo might not be a bad idea.

I'm a computer technition currently working with Microsoft, It is extreamly important that my car start up everyday and get me to work and wherever work takes me, I have the money and the ability to do a 3sgte swap witch I was planning on doing to the point where I had a shop in like, and a st185 clip with my name on it not far from me, the porblem is that I just cant have my car out for the month or so it would take to have it put in right, I called tons of car rental places but they will not rent me a car as I'm under 21, its the same thing with trying to put a turbo in, I just cant have my car unreliable, witch doing this kind of wokr would cause it to be, an electronic turbo doea not pooduse enough boost (1-2 psi max) for it to cause harm to the motor, and its not hard to regulate the battery power to run one, (my amp sux more power then that thing would, so turning off the emp to run it is my option witch solves the power issure (witch is where most people dont do there reasurtch thinking it would take everything you have to spin a little blade like the old e-turbos did)) not the basic rule with psi is that for every 1 psi you'l gain about 10 hp however so if you push 7 psi (basicly the max semi safe psi the 5s can run with) you'll gain 70 hp, making the motor put out about 190-200 (obviously you would have to make the other systems like fuel and spark match up in order to handel it) now with pushing 2 psi your stock fuel injectors pump, etc will do just fine because you just making it easyer on your motor to get the air in needs though making more hp, however when the turbo is off, unless you put a bypass in to open up the intake you will be restricting the air flow (making your motor spinn the e-turbo) giving it less air and less hp. this is a common problem when people supercharge a turbocharged car. but anyway, your not gana gain massive hp from this mod but for the money its not bad, I man a cat-back is like $400 and your gana guain what 7 hp? or an CAI witch would get you maybe 5 hp average (unless you live in alaska where the air outside is frozen) its all about doing it right like any mod there are not quick tricks to get you big hp, you have to invest time in understanding how it works, I'll show you a system I came up with for this mod if you want.

anyway I've rambled on enough, The big problem with our cars is not that the motors avalible in the us for it are crappy low hp economy motors its that there is no aftermarket of stuff, just a few things here and there, we have to come up with things on our own and use some trial and error methods as I'm shure many of us have done, with is why we all respect people like Presure2, nik and all the others who have really brocken ground on what mods can be done to get real gains.

This post has been edited by creis: Oct 21, 2005 - 9:23 PM

[snapshotgt]

More info? websites? ...it may sound stupid...but this could be just what i'm looking for:) (not wanting to spend thousands...but wanting some more beef now-and-again:))

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

More info?  websites?  ...it may sound stupid...but this could be just what i'm looking for:) (not wanting to spend thousands...but wanting some more beef now-and-again:))
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Just search for it. Google, or yahoo. Your guess will be as good as anyones if this is what you honestly want to do.

[LewFX]

a $140 ebay cai aint gonna push more than 5hp!

[NEVERSTOP]

Do it right or don't do it at all....

you may invest 1k on exhaust and intake now and only gain 12hp or so off it but if you keep adding more mods over time eventually it will have a domino effect and you will gain more OVERALL hp in the long run. The best way to make more power is more air/fuel. upgrading your intake and exhuast should be some of the 1st performance mods you need to do, right after an inital tuneup. after that I would upgrade the ignition system (spark plugs, wires, MDS6a, etc) then up your fuel system. after that look into a SAFC type controller to get the most out of your system. you would be surprised at how much of a difference you will notice, you might not be smoking every mustang or even civic out there but it will help. Improving your drivetrain and maybe a little wieght reduction never hurts either.

it may take some time to do all this but if you set goals and stages for yourself it will go ALOT quicker than you think, also time and $ should not be your 1st priorities, the overall result should be #1 prioity, take me for example I have spent well over a year and a half researching and locating parts for my 5sfte project and now that I have pretty much everything I am getting rid of parts now for better upgraded stuff or stuff that threw trial and error (of other people) has proven to be better than what I was intending to use, and yes waiting sucks but it will be worth it when my project is completed, because I will have a VERY nice 5sfte under the hood of my celi! hehe some of you 5sfter's are gonna be jealous JK

As for the electric turbo, great idea in theory..... poor product in reality

Edit: BTW the Greddy SP exhaust is WELL worth the $

This post has been edited by NEVERSTOP: Oct 23, 2005 - 5:26 AM

[creis]

domino effect

absolutly correct, maybe an cat-back adds 5-7 with a stock motor, but with a (real) turbo on there the gains are far better appose to a turbo on a stock exhaust. same with a CAI but thats diff after you put on the turbo.