our ST's are just slow!, even with the 4age swap its still slow.. Options

[nik]

I feel like without the 3s engines our 6G cars are like crap compared to others and the thing is with the GT models, U don't have to go out and spend a crap load on motor mounts and shift cables, cause thats the only major difference in engine reqs.

Plain and simple, no matter what we do ST's are just SLOW~

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we will see not all ST are slow my old turbo 7afte was quick nothing to write home about but beat alot of cars around me 98 GSX, acura rsx type S to name 2 but once the car is finished with the 7agte this st wont be slow at all

This post has been edited by nik: Oct 27, 2005 - 3:15 PM

[Drew-887]

I feel like without the 3s engines our 6G cars are like crap compared to others and the thing is with the GT models, U don't have to go out and spend a crap load on motor mounts and shift cables, cause thats the only major difference in engine reqs.

Plain and simple, no matter what we do ST's are just SLOW~

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we will see not all ST are slow my old turbo 7afte was quick nothing to right home about but beat alot of cars around me 98 GSX, acura rsx type S to name 2 but once the car is finished with the 7agte this st wont be slow at all
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Damn soulshadow you make me feel bad about my ST. That is until I remember Nik's ST. What exactly is a 7agte. Im a newbie so i dont understand what that is. Would soulshadows ST be alot faster if it had a 4agze swap instead?

[jdg371]

Damn soulshadow you make me feel bad about my ST. That is until I remember Nik's ST. What exactly is a 7agte. Im a newbie so i dont understand what that is. Would soulshadows ST be alot faster if it had a 4agze swap instead?
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Yea it would be quicker with the GZE

a 7AGTE is a 7A block mated to a 4AGE Head with 4A internals(not sure) with a turbo for the extra umph

[nik]

Damn soulshadow you make me feel bad about my ST. That is until I remember Nik's ST. What exactly is a 7agte. Im a newbie so i dont understand what that is. Would soulshadows ST be alot faster if it had a 4agze swap instead?
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GO HERE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=21831

its a big port 4agze head on the 7afe block
the head is fully built 272 cam trd valve train (springs retainer etc)
Stage 2 port and polish with port match 5 angle valve job
block is bored .5 over (81.5mm) with 4agze 8.0:1 pistons that have been coated
pauter 4340 chromoly rods everything balanced and blue printed
6 puck act clutch
sds stand alone with a digi 7 + more
custom intercooler piping 2.5 one side 2.75 other side
custom turbo manifold
innovative turbo capable of 450 horse
phantom grip lsd with upgraded springs
and the list goes on

looking for 350whp to 400whp at about 15 psi-20 psi on 92 pump gas

[nik]

Damn soulshadow you make me feel bad about my ST. That is until I remember Nik's ST. What exactly is a 7agte. Im a newbie so i dont understand what that is. Would soulshadows ST be alot faster if it had a 4agze swap instead?
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Yea it would be quicker with the GZE

a 7AGTE is a 7A block mated to a 4AGE Head with 4A internals(not sure) with a turbo for the extra umph
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just to clean things up
internals are 7afe spec crank, rods (pautor or stock), but pistons are 4ag spec or custom
and yes the head of a 4ag be it 20v st or bt, 4ag 16v red or blue or supercharged big or small port

than N/A or turbo or supercharged

[soulshadow]

I was thinking that in the future when im out in the world and working Im gonna upgrade my 4age engine. Going to put in some toda parts and Atlantic parts to see if the engine can rev all the way to the 11,000 RPM line. I'll still keep it NA though.

[shin]

ya going all Initial D on your 4age soulshadow? lol.

[Smlogg]

The celica was never built or intended for drag, the ones you see in official races are usually in rally courses. It's a heavy car built for looks and comfort, and the st version is built around economy. To convert it for drag is going to take a lot of money resources and time. The easiest method is of course going the turbo route, and then gutting out parts of the car (backseats, ac, sound proofing, etc). As has been said by many people who have done it, its not worth it. And keep in mind when you race, there is always someone faster than you.

[RedSunCelica]

buy a mustang 5.0
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Best reply and most accurate.


celica was not meant to be fast especially USDM celicas. drag racing is more then power what are your 60'ft are you spinning off the line. dont expect to hit low 13;s with this car youll be lucky to even break in the low 14s. also since you want to drag look into some gear work.

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[blu94gt]

buy a mustang 5.0
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Best reply and most accurate.


celica was not meant to be fast especially USDM celicas. drag racing is more then power what are your 60'ft are you spinning off the line. dont expect to hit low 13;s with this car youll be lucky to even break in the low 14s. also since you want to drag look into some gear work.
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5.0's are great. Used to own one, lots of potential for cheap. I want to get another convertible 5.0, strip the interior to the basics, cage it, put an eibach suspension in it and make it an autoX monster since everyone always builds those cars to drag.