Suspension Setup, What do you guys think? Options

[JoKeRkId613]

Okay, I'm planning on doing suspension next. I decided on Eibach Sportline Springs since all the feedback is positive. All the others seem good too but there's always at least one person that doesn't like them. So Eibach Sportlines for the springs and there's not many choices for struts/shocks. Koni, KYB, and Monroe seem to be the only choices so I'm going with KYB GR-2 Struts/Shocks. Since Monroe only sells struts and Koni only sells shocks, I figure I get the KYBs that come with both. What do you guys think about this combination? How many fingers space will there be between the tires and the car?

I also want to improve the handling on the Celi and this is where I need help. I'm thinking of getting the J-speed strut braces for the front and rear. But in the picture of the parts database, the rear looks like it was made for the hatchback only. would the rear fit my coupe? if not then im going to get the trd front strut brace and not have a rear brace. i will also be getting j-speed side tower braces

Now I just want to know about the Cusco Lower Arm Bar and the JIC Magic Type 1 Lower Frame Brace. Can you have both of these on the car at the same time or will one interfere with the other? I don't know too much about these braces or anything with suspension, period. Thanks in advance guys.

EDIT: Are there any other parts not posted in the database that'll improve suspension/handling?

This post has been edited by JoKeRkId613: Nov 8, 2005 - 3:08 PM

[LewFX]

kybs are shock inserts for the fronts, and whole struts in the rear. monroes are all struts. bilsteins are the same as kyb, 2 shocks, 2 struts.

[JoKeRkId613]

kybs are shock inserts for the fronts, and whole struts in the rear. monroes are all struts. bilsteins are the same as kyb, 2 shocks, 2 struts.[right][snapback]354667[/snapback][/right]

Ok... well im confused now. from factory, our cars have 2 shocks up front and 2 struts in the rear? is that right?. so if i got monroes, it'll be 4 struts all around? whats the best thing to get? and bilsteins is the entire shick or just the shock inserts? whats the difference? im very confused now...

[LewFX]

the strut is 2 pieces, theres a shock absorber that goes inside the strut housing. therefore the kybs would require you to open the housing and put the shock insert in. the rears are all set.

[LewFX]

btw, i tried monroes, and didnt like em, too bumpy for me.

[JoKeRkId613]

ok...so theres a strut on all 4 wheels with a shock thing in it. is there any company that sells all 4 to replace all 4? so your bilstein shocks are on all 4 tires?

[dstrbcelica]

kyb does both the front and rear. i just got mine last week. check ebay..i paid 193.99 shipped.

-dstrb

[JoKeRkId613]

ok... great kyb sells the front and back. but are they shocks or struts or what? i dont get it? how does the suspension work? thanks

[dstrbcelica]

:::sigh::: 2 struts and 2 shocks. front and rear. would you like me to take pics of them in the box for you? b/c i can. i can go out to my car, open the trunk and take a pic of the box. would that clear things up?

-dstrb

[Junior]

A strut and shock perform the same function. Our cars run on struts. The difference is that there is an additional housing with struts. KYB is not performance, its OEM spec shocks. If you wanna get the cusco and JIC lower arm bars, it'll depend on which cusco lower arm bar you get. If you wanna run both types, just get the cusco lower arm 1 and 2, forget about JIC.

[JoKeRkId613]

that would be great. so if im understanding correctly. its 2 shocks and 2 struts per wheel. making it 8 pieces in total. so if i buy kyb's, it'll come with all 8? 4 shocks and 4 struts? thanks in advance for the pics. sorry, im a noob when it comes to suspension...

EDIT: OK, sorry about the previous dumb reply. Okay, so it's 2 shocks in the front(1 per tire), and 2 struts in the rear(1 per tire). that's according to kyb. so what do you mean that ours are all struts all around if kyb says these are oem spec.

This post has been edited by JoKeRkId613: Nov 8, 2005 - 4:57 PM

[LewFX]

im trying to get him to understand that most strut options are 2 struts and 2 inserts, he would need to take the front cap of his strut and insert a shock. many gt versions cant do that (mine was sealed over) therefore i needed to get a st strut housing and do it.

[JoKeRkId613]

so theres no performance shocks/struts for celicas?

[presure2]

koni's are performance shocks.
you dont need a rear strut bar with a couple, the trunk IS the strut bar

[LewFX]

bilsteins are performace as well arent they?

[JoKeRkId613]

koni's are performance shocks.
you dont need a rear strut bar with a couple, the trunk IS the strut bar [right][snapback]354713[/snapback][/right]

Gotcha. Cool. So Koni's are performance shocks(front). Does anyone make performance struts(rear)? Monroe's struts says it's a replacement, so I'm guessing those are OEM style also. That's cool. So I save money on the rear strut bar. I guess I'll go with the TRD front strut since I don't need the back.

A strut and shock perform the same function. Our cars run on struts. The difference is that there is an additional housing with struts. KYB is not performance, its OEM spec shocks. If you wanna get the cusco and JIC lower arm bars, it'll depend on which cusco lower arm bar you get. If you wanna run both types, just get the cusco lower arm 1 and 2, forget about JIC.[right][snapback]354713[/snapback][/right]

Well I only see 1 Cusco lower arm bar(Parts Database). So I don't know what you mean by 1 and 2. So you're saying JIC is basically the cusco 1 and 2 put together, right?

This post has been edited by JoKeRkId613: Nov 8, 2005 - 5:17 PM

[snapshotgt]

You should also get sway bars (c-one or sus tech)...this will improve body roll...which is key to great handling!

(strut bars do not do a whole lot for the price ( i think c-ones are in the mid hundreds-just for one!)...maybe should rethink that...but i'd have to say...if i have the extra $$ laying around...i'd include strut bars to the whole setup)

Good luck!

snapshotgt

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Nov 8, 2005 - 5:15 PM

[JoKeRkId613]

You should also get sway bars (c-one or sus tech)...this will improve body roll...which is key to great handling![right][snapback]354720[/snapback][/right]

I just checked the parts database and I only see suspension tech's sway bars. It doesn't sho as C-ONE making a sway bar... These are for both front and rear which sounds great to me. They don't have any pictures tho. I see that Coomer and Jgreening have the front and back. Would one of you guys be able to get me a pic of the sway bars? Thanks.

[snapshotgt]

You should also get sway bars (c-one or sus tech)...this will improve body roll...which is key to great handling![right][snapback]354720[/snapback][/right]

I just checked the parts database and I only see suspension tech's sway bars. It doesn't sho as C-ONE making a sway bar... These are for both front and rear which sounds great to me. They don't have any pictures tho. I see that Coomer and Jgreening have the front and back. Would one of you guys be able to get me a pic of the sway bars? Thanks.
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here is a link for c-one sway bars-

(the front): CLICK THIS

and this (the rear): CLICK THIS

i might mention...you can get st sway bars from a little more than one c-one bar!

later,

snapshotgt

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Nov 8, 2005 - 6:04 PM

[JoKeRkId613]

here is a link for c-one sway bars-

(the front):  CLICK THIS

and this (the rear):  CLICK THIS

i might mention...you can get st sway bars from a little more than one c-one bar!

later,

snapshotgt[right][snapback]354746[/snapback][/right]

Cool. Yeah, the ST sways sound a lot better to me as far as price. Lol. My pockets aren't that deep. Is there really a difference between the C-ONE and ST? I mean, besides price? Is it just a brand preferance type of thing? If so, I'm going with ST, you don't really see the sway bars anyway, right?