Smoke!!!!!!!!!!, i have searched |
Smoke!!!!!!!!!!, i have searched |
Feb 2, 2006 - 10:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '02 From West Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i recently turboed my 7afe with tons of probs. finally getting everything right and it starts smoking under boost. but only if i boost for more than and few secs. the turbo was rebuilt less than 500 miles ago and my engine runs good out of boost no smoke. to me the smoke looks grey. I recently had my turbo blow the oil seals out and oil was everywhere in my intercooler piping. I have cleaned all of them and the intercooler. I also cleaned the intake manifold the best i could. would this have any thing to do with it? any other ideas?
Thanks Richard |
Feb 3, 2006 - 3:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 19, '04 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
you are undoubtedly burning oil. searching that.
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Feb 3, 2006 - 3:56 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 3, '04 From Yakima, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
wheres the smoke comming from?
-------------------- the 1/4 doesnt have patience for a ST.... so we make them ST-T's so atleast we'll sound good going slow.
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Feb 3, 2006 - 4:34 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 25, '05 From Brisbane, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Is there any smoke coming out the exhaust? oil might just be slipping past the oil seal and dripping into the exhaust housing, it would explain any smoke coming out the turbo or cat. I don't know why it would only happen under boost. Does oil pressure increase under high revs? If it's just oil slipping past maybe you could put a oil resistor in but only if the turbo still gets enough oil. good luck.
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Feb 3, 2006 - 7:54 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '04 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
check the size of your feed line and make sure there is no bends in your return line. the same thing was happening to me when i first turboed my 7A. if the feed lijne is too big or the return line is bent you will blow the oil seal in you turbo real easy.
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Feb 3, 2006 - 10:01 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
#1) do you have an inline oil restrictor? (you should have one)
#2) is your drain line large enough and as completely straight down as possible? |
Feb 3, 2006 - 11:17 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '02 From West Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i have a oil resitor and my drain line is as straight as it could be
the smoke is coming from the exhaust not the turbo thanks for all the ideas keep them coming Richard This post has been edited by Dickster223: Feb 3, 2006 - 11:18 AM |
Feb 3, 2006 - 12:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '05 From green springs ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
if you hade a seal go bad & oil went every where, you could have oil still laying in the cat or muffler,but it sounds to me that maybe your oil is bypassing your rings under pressure , i would do a compression check on my cyliders,if ok might be your valve seals .
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Feb 3, 2006 - 1:51 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 8, '04 From KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Rebuilt turbo = no good, your probably still leaking.
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Feb 3, 2006 - 3:29 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '02 From West Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
there is no sign of the turbo leaking the intercooler pipes have stayed clean and the engine is a new one with about 3000 mile or so on it nay other ideas
Richard |
Feb 3, 2006 - 10:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
its more then likely your turboo...
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Feb 4, 2006 - 12:06 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '05 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
98% chance ur seals r blown again, the white smoke out of the exhaust means oil, when ur idle try reving put ur hand behind the exhaust..do u feel oil? even then if not and u have lots of white smoke after start at idle ..selas r blown.....go to the person who rebuild it and tell them to do it right ..worst comes to worst get a new or bigger turbo : )
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Feb 4, 2006 - 11:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
FYI
oil = blue/black smoke coolant = white smoke |
Feb 5, 2006 - 3:34 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 10, '05 From Monroe, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
lol i was thinking the same thing about the smoke color... all these methods dont really show the symptoms 100% accuratly (the holding your hand at the exhaust and so on). If you really cant find whats causing the problems, you need to take the exhaust downpipe off the turbo and check for oil. Do this then come back to us with info, lets try this thing one step at a time so we can get it done fast and accuractly.
-D -------------------- 94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.
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Feb 5, 2006 - 10:11 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 2, '02 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Quick and simple question that could solve all your woes. How is your PCV routed? It sounds dumb but I had the same problem and it's a simple fix.
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Feb 7, 2006 - 1:22 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 5, '02 From West Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
i probably will be selling my turbo kit, I park my car for the winter and drive my 4-runner but gas prices are so high that i started driving my mothers car saturday and on monday on my way to eat after my 230 class some one ran a stop sign and i t-boned them. I am a little stiff and my g/f busted her nose and broke her hand. hopefully the other guys insurance will cover everything but i just dont have time to get the turbo up and running. how much could i get for it? I have everything
1. Garrett t25 with upgraded internals 2. two turbo manifolds 3. down pipe 4. pre tapped oil pan 5. brand new turbo xs bov 6. autometer boost/vac water temp nd oil pressure 7. intercooler and piping 8. etc |
Feb 7, 2006 - 1:35 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 13, '06 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey man sorry to hear that......
I hope she will be alright ......your girlfriend too. how much do you want for the BOV with the pipe. |
Feb 7, 2006 - 1:52 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From Nebraska Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Jesus man, trust me, i know how you feel. But with the amount of miles the engine had on it, if that is indeed accruate then ur problem was definitly blow seals. After turboing and having seals then new, ur have to let them seat, and "work in" But ne ways hope everything works out for ya.
-------------------- Teh Celica sleeps for Winter '06. Suspension overhaul begins........
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Feb 9, 2006 - 7:40 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From San Juan, PR Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Same thing happened to me...I tried everything. The 7A-FE has sky-high oil pressure. You have to make the oil return line just the right length and angle. The turbo cartridge has to be perfectly facing up and down, meaning the oil inlet exactly at 12 o' clock and the oil drain exactly at 6 o' clock. That'll help the extreme smoking, but your oil seal will start failing eventually and you're going to start smoking again, little by little. You need a restrictor for the oil inlet. That's my case right now. This Sunday when I get to P.R., I am installing the restrictor and rebuilding the turbo.
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