The best supra Options

[jgreening]

So what your saying is that the MR2 transmission, that I have in my car, thats FWD, is a RWD transmission, because its in an MR2, with the engine in the back.

If it bolts up it bolts up, but your missing the problem with the fact that a Supra, which is RWD, needs a RWD transmission, you cant use an stock MR2 transmission, IDK why thats so hard to understand.

I don't know what you mean by "RWD Transmission". Perhaps you mean "a transmission designed for FR car". However, my definition of RWD Transmission" is a transmission that drives the rear wheels of a car.

[bloodrain]

BACK TO MY MAIN POINT

which is the best supra to buy, as in which supra is more reliable and has greater potential? The TT version or the N/A version.

[jgreening]

BACK TO MY MAIN POINT

which is the best supra to buy, as in which supra is more reliable and has greater potential? The TT version or the N/A version.

Sorry for the thread hijack. But, it has been an entertaining discussion.

[Supersprynt]

So what your saying is that the MR2 transmission, that I have in my car, thats FWD, is a RWD transmission, because its in an MR2, with the engine in the back.

If it bolts up it bolts up, but your missing the problem with the fact that a Supra, which is RWD, needs a RWD transmission, you cant use an stock MR2 transmission, IDK why thats so hard to understand.

I don't know what you mean by "RWD Transmission". Perhaps you mean "a transmission designed for FR car". However, my definition of RWD Transmission" is a transmission that drives the rear wheels of a car.

Same difference, but your method of determining which is which forgets a main point: location of engine. Yes, you will need an FR transsmision, MRT is FF or RR, not FR.

[jgreening]

If it bolts up it bolts up, but your missing the problem with the fact that a Supra, which is RWD, needs a RWD transmission, you cant use an stock MR2 transmission, IDK why thats so hard to understand.

Who said anything about using a Supra engine?

So what your saying is that the MR2 transmission, that I have in my car, thats FWD, is a RWD transmission, because its in an MR2, with the engine in the back.

If it bolts up it bolts up, but your missing the problem with the fact that a Supra, which is RWD, needs a RWD transmission, you cant use an stock MR2 transmission, IDK why thats so hard to understand.

I don't know what you mean by "RWD Transmission". Perhaps you mean "a transmission designed for FR car". However, my definition of RWD Transmission" is a transmission that drives the rear wheels of a car.

Same difference, but your method of determining which is which forgets a main point: location of engine. Yes, you will need an FR transsmision, MRT is FF or RR, not FR.

Incorrect, but I admire your persistence.

[Supersprynt]

The first quote says nothing about using a Supra engine.

Secondly:

Supra transmission:


MR2 Transmission: sorry for size.


FWD: transmission:



And just saying "incorrect" accomplishes nothing, expand your response.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 15, 2005 - 3:19 PM

[jgreening]

Using the I6 supra engine in an MR2 is similar to putting in a 6gc. Yea, it might be theoretically possible but there are too many problems and too much cost to seriously consider it. I never said I was going to do that and I really don't know where you got that idea.

My plan is to use a V6 engine from a tacoma. Its called a 5vzfe. In a tacoma, the engine is longitudinally mounted with an FR transmission. In the MR2, it will mount transversely and I will use a MR2T transmission. It bolts up with some modification.

So, to sum it up, in the case of the 5vzfe in an MR2, you must use a MR transmission - not a FR transmission as you indicated.

This post has been edited by jgreening: Dec 15, 2005 - 3:44 PM

[Supersprynt]

You know what totally sucks, im sitting here arguing for doing that engine, in a Supra, and you said MR2. No WONDER you werent getting it, I was like WTF this guy isnt dumb!! The thread is about Supras, so I hadnt even thought about the chance you werent talking about a Supra.

Totally a miscommunication. We're both correct, just arguing 2 different points.


This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Dec 15, 2005 - 3:46 PM

[lagos]

erik missed the point where we jacked the thread and started talking about mr2s ...lol

[Celica_Fan]

The best supra is the 4th generation model I reckon.

[lagos]

ok, there are no good cars to buy anymore, period. So now im looking into supras, which is the best year/model to buy. Single turbo? Twin Turbo? N/A? I need some advice because this guy is selling his turboed 94 supra for 27k, which I could probably get him to come down another 2k, which is VERY MUCH in my price range for a new car. And I know supra's arent new, but they are my (like many other peoples) dream car. And its not everyday that your dream car can be yours. Anywho, give me some advice guys.

to reply to your question:

get a 94-98 supra twin turbo with a manual tranny. thats basically the top of the line. the single turbo supras you find, means that the ower upgreaded the twins for one single aftermarket turbo. the NA supras are not very fast at all and youll regret not gettting the twin turbo one.

[bloodrain]

why would they upgrade from 2 to 1?

[lagos]

why would they upgrade from 2 to 1?

because the stock twins are small and only can do so much . so you take them out and cram one big turbo in there... like so :



or you can upgrade the 2 stock turbos to better ones. it all really depends on your power goals

[jdg371]

IMO the best would be a 86' MKII Supra with a 1UZFE

Lightest of the Supras with close to 300HP hehe

[bloodrain]

kinda a stupid question, but if you have 2 turbos, cant u have 2 blow off valves?

[Celica_Fan]

no only one blow off valve.

[lagos]

kinda a stupid question, but if you have 2 turbos, cant u have 2 blow off valves?

well ...yes and no .

no, because the 2 turbos go to the same intercooler and try to cram air into one throttle body.

yes, because some supra owners with high powered turbos (sing or twin) have run so much boost, that it can sometimes be too much air for one bov to let off, so somtimes they add 2 in there. this has nothing to do with a twin turbo car tho. you could put 2 bovs on any turbo car, but it would be dumb, unless you are running more boost then a single bov can let off.

[bloodrain]

ah, make sense make sense. Im seriously starting to consider that supra, I wanna check it out first and take it 2 my friends shop, if he says its good 2 go then i'll offer the guy $22k. he'll either take it or leave it.

[Mike]

27k for an 11 year old car? Mark IV Supra's are nice but so over priced it isn't even funny....

Here is what I am going to do:

Buy a clean N/A MR2 with high miles.
Add:
3.4 v6 liter tacoma (5vzfe) engine
Have it properly rebuilt
GT35R
MR2T tranny
ATS axels
AEM
new clutch kit
new exhaust
new set of wheels and tires
new suspension

= 500+whp beast for under 20k and be in the high 10's. Projected project completion date: 1/1/07.

That will out handle and blow the doors off most Supras.

oh man....you have sooo been bitten buy the power bug! lol its a crazy addiction, and you always want more and more

Now that I have my daily driver nearly done, I need a weekend car

I think he means how's a 5vzfe engine thats origionally longitudinally mounted gonna bolt up to a mr-2 tranns that's suitable for engines that are transversely mounted (5sfe)

i think..

They are not mounted longitudinally in a MR2.

re-read
i said mr-2 engines are transversely mounted

[jgreening]

27k for an 11 year old car? Mark IV Supra's are nice but so over priced it isn't even funny....

Here is what I am going to do:

Buy a clean N/A MR2 with high miles.
Add:
3.4 v6 liter tacoma (5vzfe) engine
Have it properly rebuilt
GT35R
MR2T tranny
ATS axels
AEM
new clutch kit
new exhaust
new set of wheels and tires
new suspension

= 500+whp beast for under 20k and be in the high 10's. Projected project completion date: 1/1/07.

That will out handle and blow the doors off most Supras.

oh man....you have sooo been bitten buy the power bug! lol its a crazy addiction, and you always want more and more

Now that I have my daily driver nearly done, I need a weekend car

I think he means how's a 5vzfe engine thats origionally longitudinally mounted gonna bolt up to a mr-2 tranns that's suitable for engines that are transversely mounted (5sfe)

i think..

They are not mounted longitudinally in a MR2.

re-read
i said mr-2 engines are transversely mounted

Yea, and the V6 is transversely mounted when it is placed in the MR2 too....what is your point?