The MR2T tranny "short axel" solution, For those that want to know... |
The MR2T tranny "short axel" solution, For those that want to know... |
May 23, 2007 - 9:25 PM |
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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 23, 2007 - 3:11 PM) [snapback]560939[/snapback] No, its pertty difficult for me to describe. I have one sound that sounds like the dust plate is scraping my rotor when I turn one direction, but can't find any evidence of it. The other constant one sounds like what I could only describe as ball bearings without lubrication. My first thought was CV joints but I packed that CV with grease after I took it apart and I don't think the bearings in the CV move like that. IDK if anybody can relate to hearing noises you know aren't supposed to be there and not being able to locate. Did you torque the axle nuts to 159 ft. lbs. ???? Did you ever put the wheels on the ground without the axle torqued in the hub? Your wheel bearing may have got wiped out. |
May 23, 2007 - 9:28 PM |
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Putting the wheel on the ground without the hub bolted doesn't sound like something I'd do, but I can't say for sure.
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May 23, 2007 - 9:37 PM |
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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 23, 2007 - 9:28 PM) [snapback]561041[/snapback] Putting the wheel on the ground without the hub bolted doesn't sound like something I'd do, but I can't say for sure. If it was my wheel bearing, I'd actually be relieved its not the axle. If the sound gets louder while turning left, then the passenger wheel brg. is bad. If its the other way around, its the other wheel brg. |
May 24, 2007 - 7:20 AM |
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It sounds exclusive to the right side. Right front to be specific. But sometimes sounds play with your ears.
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Jun 5, 2007 - 9:15 PM |
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Just a thought...
Could it be that some problems are related to the fact that there is a small "pocket" in the inner stub, in which a ball bearing can fit half way. Is it possible that blocking the bearing from going into the groove of the second spacer is limiting the maximum travel that the axle can make? This post has been edited by K-ESD: Jun 5, 2007 - 9:15 PM -------------------- ----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------
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Jun 13, 2007 - 3:28 PM |
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here's my new spacer
Machined from a alltrac stub with a ring in behind to fill in the gap. It's so close you can hardly see it. Notice the two shades of metal at the back. The ring is machined to fit into the lip of the long MR2 inner stub. The whole thing (w/o counting in the lip) is 1/2". Hopefully it is the right size. The idea was to keep the design exactly as it was before with the pocket in the inner axle but moved ahead 1/2". If I don't get tied up too much I should have it on this weekend. I'll let you know how it works out. -------------------- ----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------
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Jun 13, 2007 - 6:05 PM |
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Thats pretty much what I did. Its worked out well so far. I used the factory spacer and cut a section 1/2" off the end. Then I put that on the brake lathe and machined it so it would fit into the hub of the mr2 inner. Good luck.
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Jun 15, 2007 - 3:21 AM |
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QUOTE(Supersprynt @ May 23, 2007 - 1:11 PM) [snapback]560939[/snapback] No, its pertty difficult for me to describe. I have one sound that sounds like the dust plate is scraping my rotor when I turn one direction, but can't find any evidence of it. The other constant one sounds like what I could only describe as ball bearings without lubrication. My first thought was CV joints but I packed that CV with grease after I took it apart and I don't think the bearings in the CV move like that. IDK if anybody can relate to hearing noises you know aren't supposed to be there and not being able to locate. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47411 EXACTLY THE PROBLEM I HAD!!!!!!! its got to be your wheel bearing. I changed axle, the carrier bearing and finally the wheel bearing and it finally went away!! Im in the middle of making a how too |
Jul 27, 2007 - 6:26 PM |
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ok i used a 1 inch spacer and everything works well so far except a little vibration at high speeds. if i knew then what i know now, i would have never sold my gt gearbox and axles.
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Jul 28, 2007 - 12:50 PM |
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QUOTE(1900 @ Jul 27, 2007 - 6:26 PM) [snapback]583067[/snapback] ok i used a 1 inch spacer and everything works well so far except a little vibration at high speeds. if i knew then what i know now, i would have never sold my gt gearbox and axles. cut the spacer down to 1/2 inch |
Aug 2, 2007 - 5:41 PM |
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with the 1/2" spacer the camber is off and the tire wears badly on the inside and keep in mind that the car is lowered with eibach sportlines and running 18" wheels.
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Aug 2, 2007 - 7:37 PM |
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QUOTE(1900 @ Aug 2, 2007 - 5:41 PM) [snapback]584778[/snapback] with the 1/2" spacer the camber is off and the tire wears badly on the inside and keep in mind that the car is lowered with eibach sportlines and running 18" wheels. The axle wont affect camber unless you are loosining everything and cramming the axle into the hub. With it lowered you may not need a spacer. |
Aug 10, 2007 - 2:56 AM |
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HEY GUY THIS THREAD GOT EXTREMY LONG COULD SOME ONE SUMARISE THE BEST WAY TO DO THE E152/3SGTE AXLE SEPUP, I AM ABOUT TO DO IT WHAT SPACER ARE THE BEST TO USED WITH WHAT AXLES AND WITH WHCIH HUBS ECT.
I AM ABOUT TO BUY EVERTHING BRAND NEW SO DONT WANT TO BUY PARTS FOR NOTHING CAN ANYONE POST? SO FAR THIS IS WHAT I GOT; MR2 TURBO E153 LSD GEARBOX ST205 SHIFT CABLE (DONT KNOW WHY) ST205 REAR AND DRIVER SIDE MOTOR MOUNTS MR2 INNER C.V JOINT ST185 SHAFTS ST185 OUTER C.V JOINT IF ANYONE CAN INCLUDE PARTNUMBERS IT WOULD BE GREAT THANKS ALAN This post has been edited by Alan: Aug 10, 2007 - 3:23 AM -------------------- |
Jul 25, 2009 - 2:24 PM |
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Sorry to resurrect this thread.. but im just wondering.. is that above setup the final conclusion for the short axel? im currently working on on a 95 MR2 tranny on my 3sgte setup.. so im just confused as to which axels you need to buy.. inner mr2 axel CV joint St185 outer CV joint.. then st185 shafts.. and im just wondering if anyone wants to answer alan's question 2 years later about the spacer?.. and does anyone have part numbers to these items.. that would b lovely =)
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Jul 27, 2009 - 2:44 PM |
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anyone?
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Jul 27, 2009 - 3:15 PM |
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at one point in time, someone on here mentioned just using the camry (or was it solara?) axles. wonder how much truth there was to it.
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Jul 27, 2009 - 3:23 PM |
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mr2 inner axles and CV's, alltrac outters.
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Jul 27, 2009 - 10:24 PM |
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ok... thanks guys.. sorry if i seemed anal.. its just killing me at the moment.. ill go ahead and get those axels.. hopefully it leads to sucess =)
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Aug 19, 2009 - 10:17 PM |
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i just read 12 pages, should have just come to the end, lol./
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Aug 21, 2009 - 11:28 AM |
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i just read 12 pages, should have just come to the end, lol./ only because i forced an answer lol or u woulda probably asked also -------------------- THIS IS WHERE WE HOLD THEM!
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