The MR2T tranny "short axel" solution, For those that want to know... Options

[yungazzdriver]

so what your telling me is that a st185 tranny will not bolt on................it is a direct fit nothing needed to do to "make"it fit, its a direct bolt on and i forgot to mention that the ratios are different and longer than the mr2 tranny making it a better option, it has alrerady been tried out on my car and fits like it was meant to go i dont know what it is for the difference between the two whether one is a little bit longer or what it is but i know it is a direct fit and if yall want ill take pics today if i can find the transfer cable to the computer

Please learn how to type and write. It will make lots of us much happier...

If you put an MR2 diff and cover plate on an all-trac/GT4 tranny, you will have to add an intermediate shaft in place of the transfer case that was removed from tranny. The ST185 outers are a good choice (the pop into your hubs no problem...) but they may be the wrong length based on the intermediate shaft and other factors (this is where the 6gc'ers will need to chime in). But yes, you can convert your ST185 tranny (E150) to an E153 by swapping the diff.

-Charlie

PS. I'm using all '90 V6 Camry stuff (with MR2 axle carrier) on my ST205 motor / E153 tranny combo - but its going into my '90 Camry...

look man im tired of people like you talking about vocab here, this isnt english class so get over it for real, you understand what i mean ok lay off! and i barely typed anything wrong! look at yours i saw atleast one thing wrong in there so there. and im here to share what i am experimenting with and it worked perfectly so i can share with the community so lay the hell off im here to help like others and people understand what i mean

[afroman]

I think the big thing is your lack of periods or sentence ending punctuation. It makes things hard to follow. Either way, what your talking about has been done. there is sticky on celicatech, about conveting the AWD to FWD. If you had pics that would help clear things up.
-Aaron-

[phattyduck]

look man im tired of people like you talking about vocab here, this isnt english class so get over it for real, you understand what i mean ok lay off! and i barely typed anything wrong! look at yours i saw atleast one thing wrong in there so there. and im here to share what i am experimenting with and it worked perfectly so i can share with the community so lay the hell off im here to help like others and people understand what i mean

LOL... If you want intelligent responses, write in an intelligent manner. I'm not asking you to be perfect (and nobody else is either, I hope). And it is totally incorrect to say that you 'barely typed anything wrong'... If there is something that multiple people have pointed out to you, stop complaining about them and start looking at yourself.

The real issue is that I didn't understand what you were saying! If you type something that people don't understand, you end up spreading mis-information - and none of us want that.

Whatever the case - if you have an E153 (from an MR2, from a Camry, or a converted All-trac), you will have the same issue with the axles. When you have a solution that worked for you, take some pictures and show everybody.

-Charlie

[jgreening]

Hey guys please stop cluttering up my thread with this bickering. Thank you.

[K-ESD]

now i'm more confused than ever about the camry/st185/mr2 axles

someone please clear this up ( those with "(?) <---------------- " )

Driver side inner stub shaft:

-mr2 turbo w/lsd
-lsd stub shaft

-mr2 turbo w/o lsd
-non lsd shaft

-camry v6 w/o lsd
-camry stub shaft (?) <------------

Passenger side Intermediate shaft

-mr2 turbo w/lsd
-same as non lsd (?)<----------------

-mr2 turbo w/o lsd
-same as lsd (?) <--------------------

-camry v6 w/o lsd
-camry shaft (?) <---------------


Outter axles

Driver side
-ST185 driver side
-Camry v6 driver side (?) <---------------

Passenger side
-ST185 passenger w/ extra spacer
-Camry v6 passenger side w/ spacer (?)<----------------

This post has been edited by K-ESD: Apr 25, 2006 - 5:26 PM

[Supersprynt]

90 Camry w/ST205 motor, wow sleeper.

[HaRv3sTeR]

90 Camry w/ST205 motor, wow sleeper.

i think he's talking about the camry engine into the celi not the camry with a 3sgte

[Supersprynt]

PS. I'm using all '90 V6 Camry stuff (with MR2 axle carrier) on my ST205 motor / E153 tranny combo - but its going into my '90 Camry...

[phattyduck]

90 Camry w/ST205 motor, wow sleeper.

i think he's talking about the camry engine into the celi not the camry with a 3sgte

The ST205 3s-gte is going in my Camry... w/ all the trimmings but the AWD and big brakes... (E153, KAAZ LSD, stock ST205 AWIC+heat exchanger, etc.)

I believe my Camry is narrower than the 6gc, so I don't have the axle issue...

-Charlie

[BBoYRuGGeD]

The ST205 3s-gte is going in my Camry... w/ all the trimmings but the AWD and big brakes... (E153, KAAZ LSD, stock ST205 AWIC+heat exchanger, etc.)

I believe my Camry is narrower than the 6gc, so I don't have the axle issue...

-Charlie

wow that is a sleeper...sweeeeeet

bboy

[ZoomZoom]

I was wondering if anybody have figure it out if this setup w/ the spacer is too long,
or its fits perfect. Im currently working on the same short axle soulution right now but I just wanted to know coz Rib said that its too long. ofr the guys that did the work, is it too long or is it perfect fit.
Please let me know before I start working on it.
Thank you,

[Rjb23]

It was to long for me but it may not be for others. Once I put the spacer on I had a very hard time getting the axle back in the hub and then once I did that I couldn't get the strut bolted back up.

One question for you guys did you put the spacer on so that the bearings could go into the spacer or put it on so it couldn't?

[Supersprynt]

I turned the spacer so that the bearings would not be able to fit inside spacer. You'd loose the CV if they could, and then I packed the spacer full of bearing grease.

[ZoomZoom]

supersprynt,
was your axle too long as well like rjb23 or yours is perfect fit?

[Supersprynt]

I havent put it in yet I'll tell you tomorrow.

[burneeed]

Ok I finished mine last night... Mr2 inners and alltrac outers. On the passenger side where the inners connect to the outers what I did was take the drivers side inner... I had an extra one used that... I sawed off the end of it so it would make a 1/4" more room. Fit in there perfectly. Drove like a beauty with this new tranny. Now the problem I had was the balls fell out of the axle. Got to find a way to get that taken care of.

[Supersprynt]

Well heres the situation. The axle is the perfect length with a full "extra" spacer if I put the axle all the way into the transmission. However, if I do that my carrier bearing is almost 1/2'' to far inwards to bolt up. As far as I know, axles are supposed to go in as far as they can, but the bearing wont bolt up to the block if I do that. Also, if I bolt up the bearing, the axle is too long to bolt the hub back up.

So I have a request. Can someone take a picture of their inner axle to see how much of the inner comes out of the transmission?

If the bearing decides how far the axle goes in, then the spacer needs to be cut about 1/2'' so that the hub can bolt in.

Burneed did you saw off 1/4'' or did you saw off everything but a 1/4'' and what did you use? I dont think a hack saw will work with this piece.

Edit: Also what Im reading on MR2 board is that some axles wont bolt up if they are the wrong axles. So now Im doubting everything I have, which is even more frustrating.

Can someone with the MR2 tranny take a pic of the transmission where the axle enters so I can get an idea?

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 7, 2006 - 5:54 PM

[BBoYRuGGeD]

holy damn that sucks supersprynt...hopefully u figure it out and everything works out aright for ya man and soon too! this sorta scares me into going with the e153 swap but lucky me my s54 is still in great shape and my driving habits are very easy on the car

bboy

[Supersprynt]

Honestly, I totally regret putting in the E153. But my S54 had 190+k on it and I felt it was a ticking time-bomb. Maybe if it wasnt so much "will this work, does that work" then it wouldnt be so bad, but what a nightmare.

[WannabeGT4]

I don't see this section in Jay's axle setup. It looks to be about 1/2" wide. Can it be taken out?