 air/fuel ratio gauges are bull, wideband |
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 Jan 22, 2006 - 4:42 AM
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I was reading about how air/fuel ratio gauges are bull.
my cars a daily driver. and I'm not going to be pushing it too hard but once in a while i will . so do think a Autometer type gauge will do? will having its own sensor help? I don't think i will need wideband.  give me your opinion 
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Jan 22, 2006 - 4:54 AM
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 Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
If you dont plan on buying a wideband, dont buy a A/F gauge at all. Non widebands are useless.
I would suggest boost, oil pressure, EGT, or water temp. --------------------  I will return one day. |
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Jan 22, 2006 - 10:08 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '05 From kent Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
thats a little extreme not necessarily useless.... depends on your uses really. They will give you some idea just no use for tuning. maybe useful as a basic monitor...
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Jan 23, 2006 - 12:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 13, '06 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
so if i'm running really lean/rich i wount even know with a 70$ gauge?
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Jan 23, 2006 - 2:06 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 3, '04 From Yakima, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
a good suggestion is to get it tuned - to keep it just right. hit the dyno and dont worry about it , but keep the afr to monitor the situation
-------------------- the 1/4 doesnt have patience for a ST.... so we make them ST-T's so atleast we'll sound good going slow.
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Jan 23, 2006 - 3:14 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(southwest2118 @ Jan 22, 2006 - 11:52 PM) [snapback]382605[/snapback] so if i'm running really lean/rich i wount even know with a 70$ gauge? correct. Some say that a narrow band can tell you about changes that occur during driving (without accurately giving figures) but I would never rely on one. There is a really good thread about EGT, Wideband O2, and Narrowband O2 guages on honda-tech I will see if I can dig up for you. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Jan 23, 2006 - 10:12 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 5, '05 From Upper Darby, PA(5 min away from Philly) Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
QUOTE(defgeph @ Jan 22, 2006 - 4:54 AM) [snapback]382217[/snapback] If you dont plan on buying a wideband, dont buy a A/F gauge at all. Non widebands are useless. I would suggest boost, oil pressure, EGT, or water temp. Whats a EGT gauge and what does it do? |
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Jan 23, 2006 - 10:56 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 13, '02 From Blairstown, New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
EGT gauges read the exhaust gas temperature. If you look at mannys turbo manifold, you can see where he had it tapped for the temp sensor right on top.
Having an EGT gauge will help you determine if your engine is running too hot, give you an idea as to whether its cooled down properly before shut-down, and so on. Useful I'm sure to see if your running close to a pemature detonation also when you crank your boost up. -------------------- 3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting. |
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Jan 23, 2006 - 11:59 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
A/F gaues are pretty.
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Jan 23, 2006 - 4:37 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '04 From Northern New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
yah i regret buying mine..
 coulda gotten myself a nice egt or volt meter or something in place of my 3rd pod that my a/f is current occupying bboy --------------------  ..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi.. |
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Jan 23, 2006 - 8:25 PM
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Jan 23, 2006 - 9:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
If you buy a wideband with your a/f your a whole lot better off.
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Jan 23, 2006 - 11:24 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
actaully guys, I bought an Innovate LC-1 and a Autometer air\fuel guage. With the dual outputs of the LC1 I have instant wideband on the guage and datalogging on my lap top.
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Jan 24, 2006 - 8:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 23, '05 From kent Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
recent tests show that the innovate wideband readings are slightly out, up to .7 at times
imo the techedge seems better |
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