after swap, not turning over ?!!?!?!, advise Options

[Batman722]

The problem is most likely getting corrected right now.

Manny (presure2) had an idea about what it could be and we are now very sure it is the cause.

Damn 96+...we found another difference between the 94-95 5s and the 96+ 5s. If this doesn't work out, I will feel even worse about this situation...

[rjbibeau]

i'll check and see. i checked all fuses and all are good. how do you go about testing the ignition control module?

[Agent21]

Well the ugly way is to buy one with a return policy. Other then that I dunno.

[nightryder]

ok a break in the case! I had a buddy come down from toyota of dartmouth, me helped me look through the car, we traced the power problem all the way back to the ecu, so its either a short in the harness, or a burnt out ecu. which is highly possible because when putting the whole ting back together, my wonderful "wrangler enthusiast" buddy decided to put the ground of the battery under the starter bolt. so im pretty sure that messed some stuff up, we'll see.

[nightryder]

The problem is most likely getting corrected right now.

Manny (presure2) had an idea about what it could be and we are now very sure it is the cause.

Damn 96+...we found another difference between the 94-95 5s and the 96+ 5s. If this doesn't work out, I will feel even worse about this situation...

its cool, the diff is the crank sensor, all you have to do is pull the plate holding the sensor off of the block and transplant that along with the crank into the new engine, very simple, very effective as long as you use the same harness. So dont worry about it, its a minor setback, Thanks again guys!

[lagos]

ok a break in the case! I had a buddy come down from toyota of dartmouth, me helped me look through the car, we traced the power problem all the way back to the ecu, so its either a short in the harness, or a burnt out ecu. which is highly possible because when putting the whole ting back together, my wonderful "wrangler enthusiast" buddy decided to put the ground of the battery under the starter bolt. so im pretty sure that messed some stuff up, we'll see.

check all your fuses, they are there to prevent such things. you can buy a little test light to make sure they work. there is one fuse box in the engine bay, and 2 on the inside of the car

[nightryder]

ok a break in the case! I had a buddy come down from toyota of dartmouth, me helped me look through the car, we traced the power problem all the way back to the ecu, so its either a short in the harness, or a burnt out ecu. which is highly possible because when putting the whole ting back together, my wonderful "wrangler enthusiast" buddy decided to put the ground of the battery under the starter bolt. so im pretty sure that messed some stuff up, we'll see.

check all your fuses, they are there to prevent such things. you can buy a little test light to make sure they work. there is one fuse box in the engine bay, and 2 on the inside of the car

I did use such a light today, but the power is all screwy, my grounds in my ecu have power and such, so im thinking its a crossed line in my harness, its all thats really left, im having a new harness brought in tomorrow to do a quick swap and see if we can get my baby alive again.

[lagos]

ok a break in the case! I had a buddy come down from toyota of dartmouth, me helped me look through the car, we traced the power problem all the way back to the ecu, so its either a short in the harness, or a burnt out ecu. which is highly possible because when putting the whole ting back together, my wonderful "wrangler enthusiast" buddy decided to put the ground of the battery under the starter bolt. so im pretty sure that messed some stuff up, we'll see.

check all your fuses, they are there to prevent such things. you can buy a little test light to make sure they work. there is one fuse box in the engine bay, and 2 on the inside of the car

I did use such a light today, but the power is all screwy, my grounds in my ecu have power and such, so im thinking its a crossed line in my harness, its all thats really left, im having a new harness brought in tomorrow to do a quick swap and see if we can get my baby alive again.

but its an oem harness that has never been modified. if it ran before, there shouldnt be anythhing wrong with it. fuses are there to prevent any type of burn outs happening inside of the wires. are you sure you didnt forget to plug a sensor in somewhere?

[nightryder]

ok a break in the case! I had a buddy come down from toyota of dartmouth, me helped me look through the car, we traced the power problem all the way back to the ecu, so its either a short in the harness, or a burnt out ecu. which is highly possible because when putting the whole ting back together, my wonderful "wrangler enthusiast" buddy decided to put the ground of the battery under the starter bolt. so im pretty sure that messed some stuff up, we'll see.

check all your fuses, they are there to prevent such things. you can buy a little test light to make sure they work. there is one fuse box in the engine bay, and 2 on the inside of the car

I did use such a light today, but the power is all screwy, my grounds in my ecu have power and such, so im thinking its a crossed line in my harness, its all thats really left, im having a new harness brought in tomorrow to do a quick swap and see if we can get my baby alive again.

but its an oem harness that has never been modified. if it ran before, there shouldnt be anythhing wrong with it. fuses are there to prevent any type of burn outs happening inside of the wires. are you sure you didnt forget to plug a sensor in somewhere?

That was the first thing i thought of, and i checked and checked and had my buddy from the dealership check, so i dont think that is the problem. The only reason i still belive it could be a melted wire or something of the sort, is because when we tryed to connect the battery with the ground and power crossed on the starter like i said, the little black clip on the timing belt side of the engine the grounds the head to the body got so hot it melted the inside and caused the wire to fall right out! so i figured if i happened over here, maybe it could have happened somewhere inside that i couldnt see, that would explain my power problems and why even when my key is out, my check engine light stays dimly lit. and why im getting minimal power to my coil and ignitor. better updates tomorrow after class.

[Batman722]

Nate, I am free tomorrow after 7ish...give me a call, I want to help any way I can. Also, I have the 94 ECU if you want it.

[Agent21]

"my wonderful "wrangler enthusiast" buddy decided" famous last words. For some reason those guys think since their cars haven't changed since the 1940's that today's cars can be man handled like theirs.

[nightryder]

"my wonderful "wrangler enthusiast" buddy decided" famous last words. For some reason those guys think since their cars haven't changed since the 1940's that today's cars can be man handled like theirs.

Amen

[nightryder]

And the clouds opened up and god said "Let it live!"... oh yeah, shes running again, roughly. but running and driving. Thanks guys, it turned out to be a fryed ground on the back of the block, just re-spliced it and she started right up! Now i just gotta figure out why she keeps stalling out on me

[rjbibeau]

there's a ground on the back of the block?.....where

[presure2]

it attaches to the back of the intake manifold.

[rjbibeau]

sweet deal maybe that's my problem. where does the other end attach to?.

This post has been edited by rjbibeau: Feb 3, 2006 - 10:57 AM

[nightryder]

sweet deal maybe that's my problem. where does the other end attach to?.

It comes out of the harness, if you have a cali emissions engine, there will be two sensors with it, if its not cali, it'll be only one sensor. But either or, they all plug into the back of the block and if you are having the same problems as me, i wont feel like such a moron!

[Batman722]

Glad to hear the beast is running again Nate

get the idle prob figured out yet ?

[nightryder]

it idles at like 2000 rpms now, its a lil high... I have an idea of how to adjust it, but i dont wanna mess w/ anything ya know? and p.s. , I dont have heat either...

This post has been edited by nightryder: Feb 4, 2006 - 6:06 PM

[rjbibeau]

good news guys my engine is alive. it runs smooth. the problem was that ground wire on the back of the intake manifold. just got some leaks in the axle seals. any tricks on getting those suckers in besides a big socket. and an extension. i ruined both seals by using a 30 mm socket. it just wasn't quite small enough. thanks guys for all your help.

This post has been edited by rjbibeau: Feb 4, 2006 - 6:44 PM