 ST246 Caldina 98+ 3SGTE ENGINES? |
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 Feb 10, 2006 - 1:43 AM
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Enthusiast  Joined Dec 29, '05 From So-Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%)  |
I know there have been some discussion late in the past upon swaping the specific engine ST246 which produces a stronger HP engine than the 3rd Gen engine, but i haven't found any posting about actually doing the swap; i know this might sound stupid, but i just like to ask if there has been any updated info upon such engine swap with ST246 3SGTE engine (4th Gen engine) ??
 Thanks, i would appreciate any response if possible. I know i could just easily go for the 3rd Gen 3SGTE, but just always curious about the newer version of the 3SGTE engine. 
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Feb 10, 2006 - 3:01 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
There is one we know of, but there is little documentation on the complex wiring. I'm sure tweak could do it, but the added cost of the 4th gen 3sgte is simply not worth the 10 or so hp you get.
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Feb 10, 2006 - 7:19 AM
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 Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
not to mention turbo and manifold are 1 peice.
and no more W2A intercooler. This post has been edited by presure2: Feb 10, 2006 - 7:19 AM -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Feb 10, 2006 - 9:43 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '04 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I sold my Caldina GT4 ('00) clip and it went in to a MR2 in Florida. I've decided that a 5S-FTE and then a 5S-GTE would be a better setup for me.
That damn wiring was just too much and like Pressure said the Turbo and IC were just not what I was looking for. Maybe someday I will go 3rd Gen 3S-GTE. This post has been edited by Negative: Feb 10, 2006 - 9:43 AM --------------------  |
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Feb 10, 2006 - 9:52 AM
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Here is a member who has done it
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Feb 10, 2006 - 10:13 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 23, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(CelicaZR @ Feb 10, 2006 - 7:52 AM) [snapback]391731[/snapback] nice never seen it in a 6, but whats up with the hood vent im guessing he spent all of his money on the 4th gen 3s 
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Feb 10, 2006 - 11:04 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
That's a second gen isn't it? I don't know much about the 3sgtes though. He needs a scoop for that hood. Seems to me that if you had enough money to put a 4th gen in your car, you would at least put it in right and make sure the intercooler had enough air. It won't get much just setting there, air needs to be pushed in it. That's why front mounts work so well.
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Feb 10, 2006 - 11:15 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '04 From charlotte N.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
haha i remember when that guy first posted his pictures up, and no one believed him because the hood scoop looks photoshoped as hell, then some guy put 7 of those hood scoops, haha, ive gotta find the pictures.
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Feb 10, 2006 - 11:15 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Theres no reason to do go Caldina besides the fact that you can say you have a Caldina engine. Its 256hp with another crappy intercooler and a massive headache of an install. ST205 is a much better option.
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Feb 10, 2006 - 5:27 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '05 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
dont hold me to this but the 4th gen has direct fire / no distrutor right?>
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Feb 10, 2006 - 5:32 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 30, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(MonsterBOX @ Feb 11, 2006 - 12:27 AM) [snapback]391910[/snapback] dont hold me to this but the 4th gen has direct fire / no distrutor right?> Yes...no distributor!!! |
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Feb 10, 2006 - 6:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 29, '05 From So-Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 12 (100%) |
hahaha...yeah...i know...i felt the pain when i read what people had to say about it...true it is higher in HP, but the installation, rather just import a 1994 GT4 celi in with all that money put in. Dang...thanks for all your inputs/opinions...just thought since time passed, maybe it had gotten better and there is another easy route to take when talking about installing the ST246 in... ^_- thanks to all who put in words on this silly forum...
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Feb 11, 2006 - 6:40 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 16, '04 From UK Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've yet to understand any way that the 4th gen 3SGTE is superior to the 3rd gen.
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Feb 11, 2006 - 6:40 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(Mr_E @ Feb 11, 2006 - 6:40 AM) [snapback]392160[/snapback] I've yet to understand any way that the 4th gen 3SGTE is superior to the 3rd gen. yeah, i agree. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Feb 13, 2006 - 4:01 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 20, '04 From oc, california Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Negative @ Feb 10, 2006 - 9:43 AM) [snapback]391727[/snapback] I've decided that a 5S-FTE and then a 5S-GTE would be a better setup for me. This might sound like a dumb question, but whats a 5S-FTE and 5SGte? Dont flame guys, just want to know |
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Feb 13, 2006 - 9:46 AM
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QUOTE(calicelica @ Feb 13, 2006 - 4:01 AM) [snapback]392982[/snapback] QUOTE(Negative @ Feb 10, 2006 - 9:43 AM) [snapback]391727[/snapback] I've decided that a 5S-FTE and then a 5S-GTE would be a better setup for me. This might sound like a dumb question, but whats a 5S-FTE and 5SGte? Dont flame guys, just want to know 5sfTe = 5sfe with turbo 5sGTE = 3s head on a 5s block -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Feb 13, 2006 - 5:40 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 13, 2006 - 6:46 AM) [snapback]393039[/snapback] QUOTE(calicelica @ Feb 13, 2006 - 4:01 AM) [snapback]392982[/snapback] QUOTE(Negative @ Feb 10, 2006 - 9:43 AM) [snapback]391727[/snapback] I've decided that a 5S-FTE and then a 5S-GTE would be a better setup for me. This might sound like a dumb question, but whats a 5S-FTE and 5SGte? Dont flame guys, just want to know 5sfTe = 5sfe with turbo 5sGTE = 3s head on a 5s block 3s head on 5s block then turboed -------------------- 94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.
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Feb 13, 2006 - 6:47 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 19, '04 From Scottsdale, Az Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(celicast3sgte @ Feb 13, 2006 - 10:40 PM) [snapback]393205[/snapback] QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 13, 2006 - 6:46 AM) [snapback]393039[/snapback] QUOTE(calicelica @ Feb 13, 2006 - 4:01 AM) [snapback]392982[/snapback] QUOTE(Negative @ Feb 10, 2006 - 9:43 AM) [snapback]391727[/snapback] I've decided that a 5S-FTE and then a 5S-GTE would be a better setup for me. This might sound like a dumb question, but whats a 5S-FTE and 5SGte? Dont flame guys, just want to know 5sfTe = 5sfe with turbo 5sGTE = 3s head on a 5s block 3s head on 5s block then turboed Has this(3shead on 5block) been done by any members here? Is it tough? Will it pass smog. I got to know! This post has been edited by madmods: Feb 13, 2006 - 6:48 PM |
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Feb 13, 2006 - 6:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 6, '03 From Las Vegas Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I think itchy put a 3s head on his 5s but now he is gonna do a complete 3s swap.
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Feb 13, 2006 - 7:33 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 16, '06 From Lima, ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ok let me break down the engine codes for you
5sgte 5th series of the F block with a performance head(G) Turbo Electronic fuel injection the G and F in toyota engines refer to the heads G for performance and F for economy, the T means that it is turboed |
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