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 Dec 28, 2005 - 4:55 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Apr 25, '03 From Miami, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%)  |
I'm about to install the Super 60 turbo in my car as soon as I receive my FMIC, BOV, and SAFC-2(should be on their way). I'm also thinking about the future tho because I know the 7AFTE wont last for long cuz it has a crap load of miles. So I'm thinking maybe going 6 Speed and later swapping the blacktop. I SEARCHED and found that there are 2 good 6spd trannies for the A series. First, I need to know the difference between the C60 and C160 tranny. From the search on 6gc, i found that the c60 came with available lsd and the c160, i know for sure comes with helical lsd or sumthing. thats not a difference tho. lol. i mean, is there anything else? also, can i put a c160 and use it with my 7af(t)e? i would need the ecu for that tranny, i assume? let me know. thanks.
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Dec 28, 2005 - 6:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
C60 and C160 are the same thing... only difference is a factory LSD option. These trannies are almost the same thing as the C52 and aren't neccesarily any stronger.
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1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Dec 28, 2005 - 7:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 25, '03 From Miami, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
yea, i figured they were about the same but the c60 and c160 have the 6th speed... thanks for the info. i was hoping ud be the one to reply.(thats a good thing, no sarcasm)
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Dec 28, 2005 - 7:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 25, '03 From Miami, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
wait... i just did sum research online and the c60 comes in the new celica gt-s and the c160 is the one that came in the blacktop levin... so im looking for the c160... right?
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Dec 28, 2005 - 7:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
tranny is almost the same. The Celica GTS does use a C60 tranny... basically the same gear set but it's a slightly different bellhousing. That's why the old MR2 guys have taken the gearsets out of the 7th gen GTS's trannies and fit them into the C52 trannies without many issues... so I've heard through the grapevine.
-------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Dec 28, 2005 - 7:51 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 28, 2005 - 6:40 PM) [snapback]372209[/snapback] tranny is almost the same. The Celica GTS does use a C60 tranny... basically the same gear set but it's a slightly different bellhousing. That's why the old MR2 guys have taken the gearsets out of the 7th gen GTS's trannies and fit them into the C52 trannies without many issues... so I've heard through the grapevine. interesting do have any links by chance bee? -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Dec 28, 2005 - 8:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 12:51 AM) [snapback]372211[/snapback] QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 28, 2005 - 6:40 PM) [snapback]372209[/snapback] tranny is almost the same. The Celica GTS does use a C60 tranny... basically the same gear set but it's a slightly different bellhousing. That's why the old MR2 guys have taken the gearsets out of the 7th gen GTS's trannies and fit them into the C52 trannies without many issues... so I've heard through the grapevine. interesting do have any links by chance bee? No links besides what's in my head... hehe. I'm pretty certain the bellhousings are different (from doing various clutch jobs on 2ZZ celicas) but considering the trannies are all C series trans, and since I heard the gearset swap on various occasions all over the place (club4ag, local swap shops, my importers, etc) ... I'd lean toward possible truth. Also consider that the clutch kits between 1ZZ, 2ZZ, and 4A/7A engines are VERY VERY similar... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Dec 29, 2005 - 8:56 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '04 From charlotte N.C. Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
c60 isnt a great tranny everyone i know with it has developed grinds in the first 4 gears and the slider forks on them sometimes just plain snap, for me 1-2 never went in right at high rpms (8500+) and couldnt be put in fast at all.
and anyone pushing over 275FWHP with it is upgrading to straight cut gears with no syncros and cyro treated bellhousings. another 5gs. so just letting you know the c60 might not be your best option. This post has been edited by recneps: Dec 29, 2005 - 8:56 AM -------------------- Former: 96 GT 5 speed (i/p/e) Fate- rear ended by mack truck
00 GTS 6 speed (i/ Bored TB 63mm - 68.5mm w/ butterfly/ Ported IM/ IMG/ PFC/ Commander/ datalogit/ Ported & heat wrapped Header/ Decat/ UEGO/) 193FWHP 14.2(1/4mi) @98mph, 2.12 60ft (just intake, unbolted Exhaust, and gutted) Fate- side swipped by 18 wheeler at 75mph. Next: maybe an elise |
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Dec 30, 2005 - 11:59 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 29, 2005 - 1:04 AM) [snapback]372216[/snapback] QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 12:51 AM) [snapback]372211[/snapback] QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Dec 28, 2005 - 6:40 PM) [snapback]372209[/snapback] tranny is almost the same. The Celica GTS does use a C60 tranny... basically the same gear set but it's a slightly different bellhousing. That's why the old MR2 guys have taken the gearsets out of the 7th gen GTS's trannies and fit them into the C52 trannies without many issues... so I've heard through the grapevine. interesting do have any links by chance bee? No links besides what's in my head... hehe. I'm pretty certain the bellhousings are different (from doing various clutch jobs on 2ZZ celicas) but considering the trannies are all C series trans, and since I heard the gearset swap on various occasions all over the place (club4ag, local swap shops, my importers, etc) ... I'd lean toward possible truth. Also consider that the clutch kits between 1ZZ, 2ZZ, and 4A/7A engines are VERY VERY similar... This is correct, I've seen the threads as well, and I've also swapped a C52 bellhousing onto a tranny from a 1ZZFE (which is the same pattern as the 2ZZGE) tranny. So I know that it can be done. I thought I posted that on here too... maybe I'll find it later if I'm not busy... -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Jan 27, 2006 - 2:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 9, '04 From Sweden Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
some one how know the part nr of the c160 lsd?
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Jan 27, 2006 - 8:13 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 18, '04 From Silverdale, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=32882
I want to do this swap but can't aford it right now. |
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