RWD conversion one step closer, yeah i'm still working on it Options

[darksecret]

A while back I had made plans to do this and Kwanza hit me with a few questions that I had to look into such as the crossmember and steering system, well I checked around and the F-Body Camaro seemed to be a good candidate for parts without having to make all of my parts from scratch. Well long story short I picked up a Camaro a couple of weeks ago and also got a running (and smoking) RX-7 FB for good measure (and $400). The Camaro is in to good a shape to be tearing apart so I will use it as a measuring board and see what comes about. It might take me forever but the thing is getting done regardless if I stick to my original parts plan or not.

[playr158]

why not just use the ST205 rear end?
wouldn't you be a little closer then a camero?

[jayi12-15psi]

oh snap

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

If they can take a Focus and put a 305 in it and make it rear drive, then you can do it to a Celica. What motor you going to use?

EDIT: I also seen this done to a Geo Storm. Probably a lot of cars out there this has been done too.

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Jan 17, 2006 - 10:02 PM

[lagos]

a camaro? lol

all you need to do is swap over the trans and rear end from an alltrac. you dont need to change the steering or crossmemeber.

[darksecret]

Because isn't switching an AWD tranny over to RWD problematic (i've been out of the 6gc loop for a few months), besides i'm into that RWD mood i'm currently stripping the 7 down and slapping a 350 into it and i'm putting a supercharged 355 into the Camaro. The rear wouldn't be an issue, i've pretty much decided to use a lot of GT-Four parts and i'm sourcing a wrecked one now. I still have a while left since i'm working on a small budget but the use of GM parts will probably be a solution since they're cheap, pretty strong, and easy to find. I was wanting to use the Getrag but it looks like i'm not up to spending $6000 on a tranny so i'll either go with a T56 and keep power around 500 horses or just source a similar 6 speed. If someone thinks about flaming me over using GM material lets not forget our friends at Toyota decided to badge the Cavalier as a Toyota a while back so it's not like i'm throwing an SRT-4 motor in and using the RWD system from a 300ZX.

[Cutrara]

If you're in the mood for RWD, just drive the Camaro.

[playr158]

you don't modify the AWD tranny?

you would use a different tranny(probably need to use a supra tranny...)
you can find one much cheaper then 6 grand

and the ST205 rear end you would need to make mounts for but your MUCH closer off with that then a camero.....

[Shigexile]

If you're in the mood for RWD, just drive the Camaro.

sadly but true

[lagos]

no offence, but i got 10bucks that says your project will not work out.

how good are you with welding and fabrication?

[darksecret]

I won't be doing the welding or fab, buddies at Project Auto Salon can help with the fab and my dad, uncle, and brother weld for a living. Yeah I would drive the Camaro but it's a boat, the 7 is more fun even though it's a third of the power. I've always said the Celica looks like a RWD car and it should have been one in the first place, i've got the tools, skill (or avalibility of skill), I kind of have the money (I can afford a little bit each week), and I got time. Seeing as the way the engine will sit the steering box will be right in the way, the distributor might also be in the way but thats an easy fix, the crossmember is certainly in the way, but that can be fixed, and the engine bay is narrow enough for the mounts. I did my homework on the Celica a while back and I have a couple of cars with similar measurements (7 looks small but under the hood it's another story). The big snag is finding a wrecked GT-Four, they go for pretty cheap but they're rare (around $3000-$5000 through junk dealers). Hey if a guy can cram a twin turbo V8 in a 5th gen I think a 3S wont be an issue.

[yungazzdriver]

hey a sixth gen celica rear wheel drive has been done already its got a 5sgte and is a pro drag racing car

[darksecret]

But is it the stock chassis or a tube chassis, if it's tube it doesn't count.

[SHERMAN]

Have you guys ever seen that show tuner transformation on speed channel. They put a Toyota truck's engine and dive train in a Toyota paseo.

If they can take a Focus and put a 305 in it and make it rear drive, then you can do it to a Celica. What motor you going to use?

My buddy has started a project where he is putting a ford 302 in his Zx3, so I think it can be done. Good luck with the swap

[yungazzdriver]

nope its a stock chassis

[darksecret]

You're talking about the HKS AT200 Celica aren't you, I thought it was FWD?

This post has been edited by darksecret: Jan 23, 2006 - 6:15 PM

[celi_gt_racer]

no... he's talking about another car (not the HKS fwd) - the hard target motorsports car .... lemme get some pics



This post has been edited by celi_gt_racer: Jan 23, 2006 - 6:42 PM

[Predator]

it is
(Edit) ah nvm

This post has been edited by Predator: Jan 23, 2006 - 6:45 PM

[playr158]

nope its a stock chassis

no... he's talking about another car (not the HKS fwd) - the hard target motorsports car .... lemme get some pics

i love this car.....cept its not street legal at all...

[tangcla]

You gotta ask yoursef... is it worth the $$? Wouldn't it be money better spent on another / new car?

Reason why I say this is from personal experience. My first creation was this. It could have had a 3S-GTE... but
1) it's damn expensive
2) you won't be able to recoup the costs when you sell the car
3) you may as well buy a new car for the money.

As with the Corolla, the Celica isn't exactly a high-model car - in fact it's Toyota's cheapest sports car. Is it really worth putting so much money, time, effort into an effectively entry-level car?

Just my 2c.