95celica st looking for higher performance, any solution except the engine swap |
95celica st looking for higher performance, any solution except the engine swap |
Feb 1, 2006 - 10:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '06 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
hi everybody, i am a new driver and i got my 95 celica st half year ago, i am wondering what kind of stuffs i can do in order to receive better performance on my car?
as i know, the st model have 98hp only. Is it correct? are there any method to raise the hp up to arround150? please give me any suggestions that work and list me the price if possible. thx for help ^^ and my car is automatic thx This post has been edited by zombie: Feb 2, 2006 - 12:22 AM |
Feb 2, 2006 - 1:02 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 3, '04 From NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
search around buddy, there is tons of info in the forced induction forum. but as far as i know there is nothing other than a swap or ur custom turbo that will give u that much power. my a GT with cold air intake, soon 3 inch full exhaust, full tune up with top quality parts i dont think ill be close to 150. my word to u is do like most of the ppl here save up and do the swap it seems that is really worth it.
and urs in an automatic ....save save save This post has been edited by lake1069: Feb 2, 2006 - 1:01 AM |
Feb 2, 2006 - 1:06 AM |
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Moderator Joined Apr 17, '03 From Rockland NY Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
QUOTE(lake1069 @ Feb 2, 2006 - 1:01 AM) [snapback]387919[/snapback] search around buddy, there is tons of info in the forced induction forum. but as far as i know there is nothing other than a swap or ur custom turbo that will give u that much power. my a GT with cold air intake, soon 3 inch full exhaust, full tune up with top quality parts i dont think ill be close to 150. my word to u is do like most of the ppl here save up and do the swap it seems that is really worth it. Stick with a 2.25 or 2.5 inch exhaust for N/A, 3 inch is overkill for the 5SFE. You do a number of things to up the horsepower. Head swap, I/H/E, Nitrous, or turbo. Keep reading you'll find something you like. -------------------- I will return one day. |
Feb 2, 2006 - 1:11 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I think your best option is to just swap a 4age in. It's a bolt in swap. Both are "a" series engines. This gives you more hp, no matter which 4age you get. Other options are 4age head on the 7afe block. There's guys out there that build the 7afe a little without turbo. Most usually swap the 4age in. Go n/a, it's the best power hands down.
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Feb 2, 2006 - 2:02 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '06 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(defgeph @ Feb 2, 2006 - 1:06 AM) [snapback]387922[/snapback] QUOTE(lake1069 @ Feb 2, 2006 - 1:01 AM) [snapback]387919[/snapback] search around buddy, there is tons of info in the forced induction forum. but as far as i know there is nothing other than a swap or ur custom turbo that will give u that much power. my a GT with cold air intake, soon 3 inch full exhaust, full tune up with top quality parts i dont think ill be close to 150. my word to u is do like most of the ppl here save up and do the swap it seems that is really worth it. Stick with a 2.25 or 2.5 inch exhaust for N/A, 3 inch is overkill for the 5SFE. You do a number of things to up the horsepower. Head swap, I/H/E, Nitrous, or turbo. Keep reading you'll find something you like. what is N/A and how much is it arround? thx..cause i know nth about enginering..that's why i can't consider of the engine swap /__\ |
Feb 2, 2006 - 3:08 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
N/A just means that it isn't turbocharged.
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Feb 2, 2006 - 8:43 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
n/a = naturally asperated
F/i = force induction ie:turbo, nitrous, or super charged your ST is an N/A motor cause it sucks in air on its own your probably not goin to hit 150hp on a n/a 7afe its just not built for it consider a turbo setup (READ THE STICKIES FOR THIS INFO) you could make a hybrid motor this requires a professional though.... realistically the only way your going to make some decent power is to swap...or pour a lot of money into making a 7afe turbo setup reliable ruffly over 2000$ imo |
Feb 2, 2006 - 12:59 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '06 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
so what does it mean Stick with a 2.25 or 2.5 inch exhaust for N/A?
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Feb 2, 2006 - 1:19 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
n/a = naturally asperated <---type of motor you have
2.25 or 2.5 inch <---unit of measure commonly found in the world, inches. exhaust <----what engine fumes exit your car through, its metal pipes apply unit of measure to exhuast pipe size, 2.25+ diameter of the pipe, *not trying to be mean just making it really simplified* This post has been edited by playr158: Feb 2, 2006 - 1:21 PM |
Feb 2, 2006 - 7:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '06 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
thx , so do u think changing of the exhaust system can bring some help to increase the hp?
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Feb 2, 2006 - 10:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 6, '05 From PA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
Yes, but not much. Many people will disagree with me when I say this, but I don't think the cost for a full custom exhaust justifies a few extra HP. IMO, the only time it's worth it to have an exhaust system is when you're turboed or swapped.
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Feb 2, 2006 - 10:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(Cutrara @ Feb 2, 2006 - 10:27 PM) [snapback]388322[/snapback] Yes, but not much. Many people will disagree with me when I say this, but I don't think the cost for a full custom exhaust justifies a few extra HP. IMO, the only time it's worth it to have an exhaust system is when you're turboed or swapped. You're right, there are people that won't agree with you. I don't like the thought that you have to have a turbo to do anything good. I'm just a NA guy. The 5sfe and 7afe aren't good NA motors, but they will pick up a couple hp from exhaust. If every little hp you can get matters to you, exhaust isn't a bad idea. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Feb 2, 2006 - 10:37 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
buy a header for a 1.8L 93-97 Corolla and have it installed. I did. It made a big difference with the responce and feel of the 7a. Best bang for the $$ IMO.
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Feb 3, 2006 - 12:55 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 1, '06 From Los Angeles Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 2, 2006 - 7:37 PM) [snapback]388329[/snapback] buy a header for a 1.8L 93-97 Corolla and have it installed. I did. It made a big difference with the responce and feel of the 7a. Best bang for the $$ IMO. can u explain more to me? thx |
Feb 3, 2006 - 4:50 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(zombie @ Feb 3, 2006 - 12:55 PM) [snapback]388547[/snapback] QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 2, 2006 - 7:37 PM) [snapback]388329[/snapback] buy a header for a 1.8L 93-97 Corolla and have it installed. I did. It made a big difference with the responce and feel of the 7a. Best bang for the $$ IMO. can u explain more to me? thx What do you need explained? -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Feb 3, 2006 - 9:12 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 1, '03 From CT Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
bolt in a small block V8 great power
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Feb 3, 2006 - 9:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 23, '05 From North Beach, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(95ST @ Feb 3, 2006 - 9:12 PM) [snapback]388700[/snapback] bolt in a small block V8 great power u cant really bolt in a small block v8 in there right cause i have the same exact car that he does (95 ST Automatic) and how much do u think it costs for a 1.8 corolla header cost? |
Feb 3, 2006 - 10:36 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
oh wow...that v8 thing was defenitly a joke.......
try SEARCHing ebay for the header to get a price... QUOTE can u explain more to me? thx yea umm ok at this point my advice to you is just accept stockness until you learn cars 101...which i believe there is a sticky expaining this in teh sticky section of this forum.. header is the FIRST piece of your exhaust it bolts onto the engine block and goes from 4 pipes into 1 pipe the SECOND piece is your downpipe which wraps from the manifold to under the motor and under the car THIRD is a catalytic converter which is an emission device 4th is your muffler at the back of the car |
Feb 3, 2006 - 10:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
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Feb 3, 2006 - 11:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined May 6, '05 From PA Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Feb 2, 2006 - 10:34 PM) [snapback]388327[/snapback] QUOTE(Cutrara @ Feb 2, 2006 - 10:27 PM) [snapback]388322[/snapback] Yes, but not much. Many people will disagree with me when I say this, but I don't think the cost for a full custom exhaust justifies a few extra HP. IMO, the only time it's worth it to have an exhaust system is when you're turboed or swapped. You're right, there are people that won't agree with you. I don't like the thought that you have to have a turbo to do anything good. I'm just a NA guy. The 5sfe and 7afe aren't good NA motors, but they will pick up a couple hp from exhaust. If every little hp you can get matters to you, exhaust isn't a bad idea. I'm not saying the exhaust doesn't help. I'm just saying money is better spent elsewhere. Why spend $400 for a header, 2.25" mandrel bent exhaust, hi-flow cat and a brand name muffler just to pick up a few lousy horsepower and make a lot more noise? -------------------- |
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