3SGTE Swappers: Stop extending your wiring harnesses 32", Or whatever it's supposed to be.... Options

[Dr_Tweak]

That's right folks, you don't need to do it. Consider this pic of a stock 6th gen Celica wiring harness laid side by side with a Dr Tweak 3SGTE/6th Gen wiring harness (this harness is plug and play and uses the stock hole in the USDM 6th gen firewall):



Only a few plugs need to be extended, around 10 or so wires.

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Just another reason to leave the headache behind and send your wiring harnesses to Dr Tweak
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-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Feb 27, 2006 - 4:18 AM

[CheesyLobster]

I believe that you need to extend harnesses from the mr2 only.

[Hanyo]

the common misconception is, you need to extend the wireharness to convert the right hand drive wireharness to a left hand drive wire harness.

[WannabeGT4]

I knew my idea wasn't that crazy.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=30136

[sugarfree]

Ill be sending mine soon, maybe 2months or possibly next month. I just need a 96 harness, because i cant take the one from my car because i drive it.

[x_itchy_b_x]

heyyyy thats my harness!
def saved me the hassel

This post has been edited by x_itchy_b_x: Feb 27, 2006 - 1:22 PM

[WannabeGT4]

BTW, since it's now just a matter of extending 10 or so wires and swapping some plugs is the price for harness conversion going down or is your cost per hour going up?

Are you going to share with everyone which wires need extended or are you going to make them wait a few months until I post the how-to?

[phattyduck]

BTW, since it's now just a matter of extending 10 or so wires and swapping some plugs is the price for harness conversion going down or is your cost per hour going up?

Are you going to share with everyone which wires need extended or are you going to make them wait a few months until I post the how-to?

If you can do the wiring, you can easily figure out how to do it this way...

He didn't say it was only a few plugs and wires that needs to be changed, he's saying that when he does a harness, this is how it turns out...

Dr Tweak, good job on stepping up to the plate by making harnesses that fit in the stock location! I'm going through this right now - it's a little bit of a pain, but worth it to have a 'stock' looking engine bay when you are done.

-Charlie

[WannabeGT4]

BTW, since it's now just a matter of extending 10 or so wires and swapping some plugs is the price for harness conversion going down or is your cost per hour going up?

Are you going to share with everyone which wires need extended or are you going to make them wait a few months until I post the how-to?

If you can do the wiring, you can easily figure out how to do it this way...

He didn't say it was only a few plugs and wires that needs to be changed, he's saying that when he does a harness, this is how it turns out...

Dr Tweak, good job on stepping up to the plate by making harnesses that fit in the stock location! I'm going through this right now - it's a little bit of a pain, but worth it to have a 'stock' looking engine bay when you are done.

-Charlie

No sh!t, It's not rocket science... but I'm not currently working on my harness so I don't know which wires he's talking about. It'd be easier for other people that want to do it on their own instead of paying someone... I'll have a complete write up soon but I'm sure others working on the swap right now could use this info.

He said he only extends 10 or so wires... The only thing left to do is swap the interior and fusebox plugs to the ST185 harness and it's ready to go. It may be more than a few plugs that need swapped, but the point I was trying to make was that since it's easier for him to do the conversion now will that be reflected in his prices or is he going to just be charging the same amount for less work? Nothing wrong with it, effeciency is a key part to running a business, but I was just curious.

[Dr_Tweak]

This isn't anything new, I've always done my harnesses like this, but this is the first time I had a completed conversion harness and a stock 6GC harness at the same time to lay side by side and show everyone. (Thanks itchyb, I was waiting for you to post that! LOL)

There's more to it than just swapping over a couple different plugs. This job take me a FULL day of hard, steady work to complete, and the shop I've been hired at charges $75 per hour. The owner wanted me to up my price to keep things cost-effective, but because I want to keep offering Celica owners these harnesses at an affordable price, I'm taking less money and keeping the price the same. That way the shop still makes some and it's not too expensive for all of you.

Thanks to you guys who appreciate the work done here For some reason, some people have the idea that you just have to cut and connect a wire here and there and BAM, it's all done, pay up please. When you pay for a wiring harness to be done by me, you are paying for:

About 10 hours of labor
Knowledge and experience from done tons of harnesses
Use of good equipment and techniques
A lifetime warranty and free unlimited tech support

Sure, somone might be able to figure out how to put the hanress together on their own, or follow a how-to (there are some out there already, by the way, though I don't agree with the methods used), but are the connections professionally made? Shrinkwrapped? All excess wires removed? Plug and play (start on the first try)? Using as few joins as possible? Does the a/c work? Lots to think about.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Feb 28, 2006 - 12:48 AM

[brianforster]

have any tips for me when i run the already complete wiring harness for my swap? any ways to keep it cleaned up, check the connections, etc. theres duct tape labeling some of the parts, i was thinking about straightening it all out and electrical taping some of the parts that look loose and relabeling everything nicer. but not sure.

[Hanyo]

damn right,

you spent the time learning how to do it correctly, and your investing time and money for the best proper tools to do it at the highest quality.

I fully support your wire harness business, and everyone here should be thankfull for the service your offering to the community.

[phattyduck]

About 10 hours of labor
Knowledge and experience from done tons of harnesses
Use of good equipment and techniques
A lifetime warranty and free unlimited tech support

Anybody who thinks this is not worth at least $600 needs to take lessons in economics. (and what are you charging, $350? $450?)

I'm an electrical engineer with lots of experience, and I can't begin to explain how much of a challenge doing a professional harness for a (modern) car is. I'm doing my own for the challenge (not to save money or time, that's for sure!), otherwise I'd send my harness out to Tweak.

-Charlie

(for all those that doubt, I'm personal friends with a few shops that do Subaru engine swaps - I'm even the electrical "tech support" for one... this stuff is a challenge, and I'm glad someone has stepped up to the plate)

[playr158]

wrapping it up with wire loom is KEY to have a clean and OEM looking setup...sumthing i've noticed on a few harness done by external people..harness wasn't wrapped well/if at all

label all your plugs where they go, get a wiring book for both cars
a good crimper, connectors and shrink wrap along with loom will do wonders

[brianforster]

ok playr, your department of the swap will be making my wiring pretty

This post has been edited by brianforster: Feb 27, 2006 - 11:09 PM

[playr158]

ooo PRETTY

[lagos]

wrapping it up with wire loom is KEY to have a clean and OEM looking setup...sumthing i've noticed on a few harness done by external people..harness wasn't wrapped well/if at all

its my undestanding that tweak dosnt do this, and leaves it up to the customer.

abel all your plugs where they go, get a wiring book for both cars
a good crimper, connectors and shrink wrap along with loom will do wonders

you make it sound so easy. it really is a lot of work, and head scratching.

[Dr_Tweak]

wrapping it up with wire loom is KEY to have a clean and OEM looking setup...sumthing i've noticed on a few harness done by external people..harness wasn't wrapped well/if at all

its my undestanding that tweak dosnt do this, and leaves it up to the customer.

That's correct, I have thought about offering it as an option, but it's easy to do, so I can keep the price lower for the customer. Looming the harness and taping it up isn't hard, just time-consuming. Personally, I always loom the harness AFTER installing it, it's a little harder to get to but it helps because first you can route it however you wish, makes the final product cleaner.

Hanyo and phattyduck, thank you

-Doc

[SlowCelica94]

Hey guys, this is a great deal.

I haven't posted an update with my life at all, but for the past half year I've been working at a honda shop, mostly doing swaps and rebuilding these b-series all the kids love. Now I have no problem working on any aspect of the car, cept harness (I'm still just an apprintence, gimme time). I hate it with a violent passion. Good quality harness work done as cleanly as Tweaks is hard to come by and worth every penny saved from the headaches.

Bump for you doc, keep up the great work

[dustin15brown]

keep it up doc, and you know you're gettin my car when it's time!!