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 Feb 15, 2006 - 4:24 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 19, '04 From Scottsdale, Az Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%)  |
This is just a question, and don't want to be flamed about it. Yes I used search and read everything. I live in Az now, and smog is different then Cali. First smog is run in a few Goverment run stations. Its not run in any
kind of shop. Second they have been busted many times for fraud so changes have been implemented to stop this and making a bribe today will land you in jail. So my question is, I have a 97 Gt. So I can swap legally a usdm 97 and higher? Jdm is out, right? Due to egr? Was the turbo mr2 made up to 99? If I just turbo my 5 will I fail a visual? Does the turbo add to smog? I'm doing my research now. I read that a member here failed visual and had to go home and remove his turbo. Maybe I should hold on to stock parts(oil pan, manifold, etc) Thanks ahead guys |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 4:37 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You can change the intake manifold onto a usdm motor and still have the egr.
If you turbo your 5s... Well lets put it this way, in california any modifcations to your intake in general is illegal. If the smog shop checks, a cold air intake is illegal if it doesnt have a carb sticker. So in california, you can get failed for just having a cold air intake. what are the chances of them forgetting to check the turbo manifold is a gamble you will have to take. a turbo should not make you fail the sniffer. The turbo should not spool at the rpm they test at. So non of the engineing management systems should affect the exhaust readings at pre 3000 rpm. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 5:49 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
if your laws are that strict, then turbo or swap will fail inspection. maybe look into selling you car for an mr2 or an alltrac.
3sgte powered cars stoped selling in america in 1993 -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Feb 15, 2006 - 6:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 15, 2006 - 4:49 AM) [snapback]394208[/snapback] if your laws are that strict, then turbo or swap will fail inspection. maybe look into selling you car for an mr2 or an alltrac. 3sgte powered cars stoped selling in america in 1993 93 for the alltrac, 95 for the mr2 -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 8:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 19, '04 From Scottsdale, Az Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 15, 2006 - 10:49 AM) [snapback]394208[/snapback] if your laws are that strict, then turbo or swap will fail inspection. maybe look into selling you car for an mr2 or an alltrac. 3sgte powered cars stoped selling in america in 1993 Love my car Lagos! I could never sell it. I know sexyasiandoll has a turbo and lives out here, so I am going to shoot her an email. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 10:27 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Put in a USDM 3sgte and you'll be ok.
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Feb 15, 2006 - 4:17 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 4, '04 From Northern New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
doesnt the law still state that the motor has to be atleast 2 years newer than the car youre putting it into? and the last US 3sgtes were '95 in the mr2. hmmm anyway madmods whatever u do good luck man!
bboy --------------------  ..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi.. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 4:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 9, '03 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
bboy, I don't think it's two years newer, I just think it can't be older.
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Feb 15, 2006 - 6:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 19, '04 From Scottsdale, Az Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 15, 2006 - 3:27 PM) [snapback]394266[/snapback] Put in a USDM 3sgte and you'll be ok. QUOTE(jayi12-15psi @ Feb 15, 2006 - 9:50 PM) [snapback]394479[/snapback] bboy, I don't think it's two years newer, I just think it can't be older. I think I heard, and thats from this website, that its got to be the same year or newer. Im obd2. I might just follow Mannys footsteps, and just turbo the 5. I am moving into a 2 car garage and recently bought me a van, so down time is not a factor any more. I guess I'm tired of every idiot out here trying to race me. I usually don't if I know there going to smoke me! im tired of being embarrassed! |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 7:08 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '05 From torrance/carson, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(Hanyo @ Feb 15, 2006 - 1:37 AM) [snapback]394197[/snapback] Well lets put it this way, in california any modifcations to your intake in general is illegal. If the smog shop checks, a cold air intake is illegal if it doesnt have a carb sticker. So in california, you can get failed for just having a cold air intake. a carb sticker? what the heck is a carb sticker? i've never had a smog test after putting in my sri. and i was even thinking about upraging to a cai. i don't have to go back to stock or what-not, do i? -------------------- |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 7:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 3, '05 From Chicago Suburbs Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Hey I just passed a smog in illinois with genIII 3s, but I dont know if i just got lucky because they didnt test for NOx... well i still got my cat in place
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Feb 15, 2006 - 8:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 10, '03 From Wichita, KS Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
LOL. Just register it in the nearest state without smog.
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Feb 15, 2006 - 8:44 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Ah yes OBD2, sorry man that sux. If you were OBD1 a USDM 3s would be ok for you.
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Feb 15, 2006 - 9:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You should just take your car to Full Race since your in Arizona. Those boys will hook you up.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 9:38 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '05 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
[quote name='jgreening' date='Feb 15, 2006 - 6:02 AM' post='394211']
3sgte powered cars stoped selling in america in 1993 [/quote] 93 for the alltrac, 95 for the mr2 [/quote] i thought 95 was only n/a |
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Feb 15, 2006 - 9:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
[quote name='MonsterBOX' date='Feb 15, 2006 - 8:38 PM' post='394663']
[quote name='jgreening' date='Feb 15, 2006 - 6:02 AM' post='394211'] 3sgte powered cars stoped selling in america in 1993 [/quote] 93 for the alltrac, 95 for the mr2 [/quote] i thought 95 was only n/a [/quote] incorrect. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Feb 16, 2006 - 3:41 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Feb 15, 2006 - 4:08 PM) [snapback]394566[/snapback] a carb sticker? what the heck is a carb sticker? i've never had a smog test after putting in my sri. and i was even thinking about upraging to a cai. i don't have to go back to stock or what-not, do i? it depends on your smog stations, if they are nice they will most likely let you go with a intake. If they anal about it, a after market intake can make you fail. carb stands for: California Air Resources Board. 
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