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post Feb 17, 2006 - 12:14 AM
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on the ct26, do you have to run both the oil and coolant lines to cool the turbo, or can you just use Oil?
post Feb 17, 2006 - 12:28 AM
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is this a serious question ?

yes, you must run the coolant lines also.


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 12:29 PM
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Not really, you can just rin the oil line without the water lines but i am sure the turbo will not last as long as it would with the water lines helping to cool it down. Why would you want to run without the water lines?


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 2:39 PM
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because he likes to live life on the edge
post Feb 18, 2006 - 3:30 PM
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QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Feb 18, 2006 - 12:29 PM) [snapback]395883[/snapback]

Not really, you can just rin the oil line without the water lines but i am sure the turbo will not last as long as it would with the water lines helping to cool it down. Why would you want to run without the water lines?

i would be willing to bet the turbo wouldnt last a week without the waterline hooked to it.


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 8:25 PM
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i say it wouldnt last a day. its kind of like running your motor without coolant.


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post Feb 18, 2006 - 8:40 PM
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There are many aftermarket turbos that do not use water cooled technology. As long as you use a turbo timer and at least 2 minutes after hard runs, you shouldn't have that big of a problem. I don't know of any reason that the ct-26 needs water cooled any more than these other turbos. That said, I wouldn't own a turbo without it being water cooled....unless it was a porsche (which only recently went to water cooled turbos).... biggrin.gif


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 19, 2006 - 7:35 AM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 18, 2006 - 8:40 PM) [snapback]396014[/snapback]

There are many aftermarket turbos that do not use water cooled technology. As long as you use a turbo timer and at least 2 minutes after hard runs, you shouldn't have that big of a problem. I don't know of any reason that the ct-26 needs water cooled any more than these other turbos. That said, I wouldn't own a turbo without it being water cooled....unless it was a porsche (which only recently went to water cooled turbos).... biggrin.gif

i do.
the ct-26 is a WATER cooled turbo.
that means its cooled by water, not oil.
the only job oil has inside that turbo is to lubricate.
without the water to help cool it, you WILL cook it.
the aftermarket turbos your talking about jay are designed to have ALOT more oil flow going thru them, where the oil acts as both a lubricant, and a coolant.
ask arron or ken from ATS, its a discussion ive already had with them before wink.gif


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post Feb 19, 2006 - 7:20 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 19, 2006 - 6:35 AM) [snapback]396135[/snapback]

QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 18, 2006 - 8:40 PM) [snapback]396014[/snapback]

There are many aftermarket turbos that do not use water cooled technology. As long as you use a turbo timer and at least 2 minutes after hard runs, you shouldn't have that big of a problem. I don't know of any reason that the ct-26 needs water cooled any more than these other turbos. That said, I wouldn't own a turbo without it being water cooled....unless it was a porsche (which only recently went to water cooled turbos).... biggrin.gif

i do.
the ct-26 is a WATER cooled turbo.
that means its cooled by water, not oil.
the only job oil has inside that turbo is to lubricate.
without the water to help cool it, you WILL cook it.
the aftermarket turbos your talking about jay are designed to have ALOT more oil flow going thru them, where the oil acts as both a lubricant, and a coolant.
ask arron or ken from ATS, its a discussion ive already had with them before wink.gif


Before I respond to this, I want to EMPHASIZE that I do NOT recommend running the ct-26 without water lines. I researched this question recently because I had a massive water leak at the coolant lines to my turbo and couldn't get it fixed right away. I looked on the mr2 board and other import boards as well. There is considerable disagreement on this point by the experts. However, after doing alot of reading, I came to the conclusion that proper cool down and running synthetic oil would likely keep the turbo safe at least in the short term. There are some very smart people with MUCH more experience than me that disagree with this but there are alot of others on the other side too. I am just giving my opinion based on the research that I did. Again, I believe that water cooled turbos will, all else being equal, last longer. Here are a couple threads:

ct-26 without water lines thread #1

ct-26 without water lines thread #2


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 19, 2006 - 7:24 PM
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dont be cheap, hook up the water line also. toyota put it there for a reason. i think thats the point we should be trying to make to the original poster.


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post Feb 19, 2006 - 7:38 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 19, 2006 - 6:24 PM) [snapback]396331[/snapback]

dont be cheap, hook up the water line also. toyota put it there for a reason. i think thats the point we should be trying to make to the original poster.


Excellent point. But saying the turbo wouldn't last a day is simply not true. I am all about giving correct advice but exaggerating is generally not wise. Its like when your parents tell you that you will end up a drug addict if you try marajuana. Such statements tend to be counterproductive because kids learn that the warnings were greatly exaggerated and then are less likely to heed important advice in the future.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 19, 2006 - 8:21 PM
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jay, i dont think i was exagerating at all.
IMO the turbo in question wont last without being water cooled.
weather its a week, a day or a month, or 5 yrs, i think we'll all agree that toyota designed the turbo with water cooling in there for a reason, and it stands to reason that the longevity of the turbo will be greatly comprimized without it.


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post Feb 19, 2006 - 8:32 PM
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 19, 2006 - 8:21 PM) [snapback]396351[/snapback]

jay, i dont think i was exagerating at all.
IMO the turbo in question wont last without being water cooled.
weather its a week, a day or a month, or 5 yrs, i think we'll all agree that toyota designed the turbo with water cooling in there for a reason, and it stands to reason that the longevity of the turbo will be greatly comprimized without it.


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post Feb 19, 2006 - 8:40 PM
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You guys are ganging up on me and now I am going to cry in the corner! biggrin.gif

J/K Hey, isn't America a great country? thumbsup.gif





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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 20, 2006 - 7:09 AM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 19, 2006 - 8:40 PM) [snapback]396359[/snapback]

You guys are ganging up on me and now I am going to cry in the corner! biggrin.gif

J/K Hey, isn't America a great country? thumbsup.gif

BWAHGAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
jay, your awesome man. thumbsup.gif


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QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 18, 2006 - 1:30 PM) [snapback]395945[/snapback]

QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Feb 18, 2006 - 12:29 PM) [snapback]395883[/snapback]

Not really, you can just rin the oil line without the water lines but i am sure the turbo will not last as long as it would with the water lines helping to cool it down. Why would you want to run without the water lines?

i would be willing to bet the turbo wouldnt last a week without the waterline hooked to it.


How much do you want to bet on this?


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post Feb 25, 2006 - 6:22 PM
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QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Feb 25, 2006 - 3:13 PM) [snapback]399596[/snapback]

QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 18, 2006 - 1:30 PM) [snapback]395945[/snapback]

QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Feb 18, 2006 - 12:29 PM) [snapback]395883[/snapback]

Not really, you can just rin the oil line without the water lines but i am sure the turbo will not last as long as it would with the water lines helping to cool it down. Why would you want to run without the water lines?

i would be willing to bet the turbo wouldnt last a week without the waterline hooked to it.


How much do you want to bet on this?


I would like to get in on some of that action too..... biggrin.gif





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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 25, 2006 - 8:56 PM
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would it matter how much boost you were running?


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post Feb 25, 2006 - 9:07 PM
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QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Feb 25, 2006 - 4:13 PM) [snapback]399596[/snapback]

QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 18, 2006 - 1:30 PM) [snapback]395945[/snapback]

QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Feb 18, 2006 - 12:29 PM) [snapback]395883[/snapback]

Not really, you can just rin the oil line without the water lines but i am sure the turbo will not last as long as it would with the water lines helping to cool it down. Why would you want to run without the water lines?

i would be willing to bet the turbo wouldnt last a week without the waterline hooked to it.


How much do you want to bet on this?

dave, we can do this.
here would be my request.
itd have to be driven a certain amount, daily, for 7 consecutive days.
hit me up PM style, we'll work out the details
if nothing less, it'd be a good experiment. wink.gif


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