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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 22, 2006 - 4:44 PM) [snapback]397978[/snapback] QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 22, 2006 - 10:28 PM) [snapback]397966[/snapback] finally somone who understands what im trying to say. I understand too... but goddamn people aren't gonna listen or open their minds to understand... so why bother? I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the 'future' swappers have NEVER driven a lightweight 200whp+ car... so they can say 'mild' all they want. There's nothing mild about 195-225 hp in a 2500 pounds car. thats why a crx with 200 whp can smoke alot of cars its not all about the power and traction thats a big part too but wieght is huge also thats the nice thing about some hondas the weight same with a corolla ae86 light so put a little power behind it and wow i have have driven both a AE86 turbo and CRX with a b16 that was built N/A ran 12's i would love to have both cars -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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QUOTE(nik @ Feb 22, 2006 - 5:49 PM) [snapback]397981[/snapback] QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 22, 2006 - 4:44 PM) [snapback]397978[/snapback] QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 22, 2006 - 10:28 PM) [snapback]397966[/snapback] finally somone who understands what im trying to say. I understand too... but goddamn people aren't gonna listen or open their minds to understand... so why bother? I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the 'future' swappers have NEVER driven a lightweight 200whp+ car... so they can say 'mild' all they want. There's nothing mild about 195-225 hp in a 2500 pounds car. thats why a crx with 200 whp can smoke alot of cars its not all about the power and traction thats a big part too but wieght is huge also thats the nice thing about some hondas the weight same with a corolla ae86 light so put a little power behind it and wow i have have driven both a AE86 turbo and CRX with a b16 that was built N/A ran 12's i would love to have both cars so true. just to further back this claim up. in the sticky about the 5sfte it says that a turbo 5s celica will be just about as fast as a mustang gt. mustang gt's have around 300 hp and 290 ft lb of torque. thats about 100 more than the celica but they are just as fast as one another.... however the celica weighs a lot less so its just as fast with 1/3 less power. the important part is the power to weight ratio, not just the raw power. |
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i'd be more than pleased with 200 whp.... and even better with nik's 350 hp BEAST
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QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 22, 2006 - 12:49 PM) [snapback]397901[/snapback] QUOTE(orvillescelica @ Feb 22, 2006 - 5:28 PM) [snapback]397809[/snapback] Ripps no longer makes the SC for the 5sfe. There was a resurgence of intrest in it about 6 months or so. I emailed and asked them about it. They said that when it was made, there was little interest in it, so they discontinued the program, but they could restart it if there were at least 5 people interested enough to put a down a downpayment. I don't actually think they ever really made the kit for the 6th. I am buying the camry kit. I just need the stage one, I can upgrade it later when I do a rebuild or buy a newer engine. Should be a simple swap to from camry to celica. I'm not after crazy horsepower at the moment. I'm happy with 190-225 I did aome research into it, and the install seems do-able. I'll keep everybody posted. Sorry to say, but i was talking about the camry kit. The camry kit was for the 5sfe and was meant to also fit on the celica. Problem is that they never test fitted it on a celica, though they were 99% sure it was going to fit ok. This is why they never listed it as a kit for the celica, since they wanted to test fit it first. Anyway, sorry for the bad news. I tried to rally up some support and get 5 people to put a downpayment so they would restart the program, but no one was interested. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=29967&hl= -------------------- Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it... |
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I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install
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QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 23, 2006 - 1:11 AM) [snapback]398271[/snapback] I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install madmods, buddy.... you and i need to go for a little ride.... -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 23, 2006 - 1:11 AM) [snapback]398271[/snapback] I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install mad, if youve actually decided to do this, i have a line of advice for you. spend as much money as you can afford to in the head, thats where youll make the power. the bottom end is easy( rods and pistons are no biggie), and the block is strong. your biggest hurdle engine wise will be the head. your best bet IMO would be to go NUTS on the head, OS valves, throat correction, port and polish, cams, ect ect.. run a middle of the road compression # like 9:1 and run a full stand alone engine management like the AEM or whatever. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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manny it comes with a ecu
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Feb 23, 2006 - 8:34 AM) [snapback]398340[/snapback] manny it comes with a ecu true dan, but that is a piggy back, thats made to run theyre settings on a close, or close to stock car. if your gonna up the VE of the motor with the kinda headwork im talking about, theyre tune becomes usless. ![]() -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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madmods, you should really give Ripp a call or email to confirm that they do have the kit around. Like i said above, when i contacted them last october they said they had discontinued the entire 5sfe program with no plans of putting it back in production.
If you want to try and get them to restart it in a grop buy situation like they asked, pm me as i might be interested. -------------------- Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it... |
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just call and see you can track down a blower atleast see if they have one or can get one thats sittting on a shelf somewhere
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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wow... this thread is back from teh grave! so has someone finally decided to go through w/ this s/c idea? glad to know it's getting some serious consideration
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QUOTE(orvillescelica @ Feb 23, 2006 - 7:41 PM) [snapback]398497[/snapback] madmods, you should really give Ripp a call or email to confirm that they do have the kit around. Like i said above, when i contacted them last october they said they had discontinued the entire 5sfe program with no plans of putting it back in production. If you want to try and get them to restart it in a grop buy situation like they asked, pm me as i might be interested. Im trying to get one sourced from them at the moment. the sales guy said he hasn't seen a kit for months but theres parts laying everywhere. Ha wish me luck. I'm not going to pay over 4000 though. If they do it for 3400 Im cool with that. Moneys burning a hole in my pocket because some guitars on ebay are calling my name. |
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 23, 2006 - 1:31 PM) [snapback]398337[/snapback] QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 23, 2006 - 1:11 AM) [snapback]398271[/snapback] I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install mad, if youve actually decided to do this, i have a line of advice for you. spend as much money as you can afford to in the head, thats where youll make the power. the bottom end is easy( rods and pistons are no biggie), and the block is strong. your biggest hurdle engine wise will be the head. your best bet IMO would be to go NUTS on the head, OS valves, throat correction, port and polish, cams, ect ect.. run a middle of the road compression # like 9:1 and run a full stand alone engine management like the AEM or whatever. What are some rod choices out there manny? What are they made out of? Im in no hurry to get the car running, so I can put a little bit of money into it at the moment. Im real concerned about the bottom end. Buying a 2nd car was probably the best thing I did. I'm trying to balance all this with the bodywork, brake upgrade, paint, moving and my girlfriend nagging. man I got to get back on the pipe! |
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the same things have been said about that kit ever since i joined this site, i dont think ANYONE in the world ever has put that on a 6gc
![]() the thread comes up about once every 6 months or so, theres plenty of shady things with that kit. like the rising rate fuel regulator thing, atleast i think thats what my friend said, he says companies usually throw things like that in their packages to compensate for sloppy programming. if someone coudl elaborate on this let me know, im not ENTIRELY knowledgable but i remember him telling me about it after reading the kit. |
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S/C'd celica > guitars on ebay
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i thought the last time this topic was discussed a stage 1 kit cost 3500 which was why nobody wanted it?
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QUOTE(brianforster @ Feb 23, 2006 - 11:43 PM) [snapback]398588[/snapback] the same things have been said about that kit ever since i joined this site, i dont think ANYONE in the world ever has put that on a 6gc ![]() the thread comes up about once every 6 months or so, theres plenty of shady things with that kit. like the rising rate fuel regulator thing, atleast i think thats what my friend said, he says companies usually throw things like that in their packages to compensate for sloppy programming. if someone coudl elaborate on this let me know, im not ENTIRELY knowledgable but i remember him telling me about it after reading the kit. I think the main reason people have stood away is that its expensive. From online talk, I heard there good kits, and ripps has a good rep. I actually think a swap would be more expensive, when you add everything up. I might get flamed for that, but thats my opinion. I was thinking aftermarket for the electronics and a good tuner with a dyno. QUOTE(Predator @ Feb 24, 2006 - 12:03 AM) [snapback]398596[/snapback] S/C'd celica > guitars on ebay hahhahaha, Im an avid guitar collector, and my girlfriend collects antique chests. Were wierd like that! The supercharger will happen. We just moved into a house, and my main concern is getting my garage up into a decent shop to work in. Im plumbing air compressor lines and flourscent light wiring at the moment. QUOTE(celi_gt_racer @ Feb 23, 2006 - 11:16 PM) [snapback]398571[/snapback] wow... this thread is back from teh grave! so has someone finally decided to go through w/ this s/c idea? glad to know it's getting some serious consideration ![]() it needs to be done! I think the kit is overpriced, and it would be easy to duplicate some of the fab stuff to offer a cheaper kit. |
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i hope you do man would love to see a sc celica
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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I actually think its a really good kit from a company that has a good reputation. Because of that, i think the kit is competitivly priced for the market. I think the price is the reason most people overlooked it, but price is relative to people. If you bought your car for $4K or so, then i could see you thinking it was overpriced. I bought my car new at around $25K, so i dont see it as that much more. Either way, i was disheartened to hear that they had stopped produciton due to lack of interest. I hope you do get some of their parts and build an SC kit for your car Madmods. It would be great to see someone on here have a SC 6gc.
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