beams motor question, possible into a 6th gen..swap wise anyways Options

[Heytalktoryan]

i did a search and really couldnt find anything on thsi forum about the beams motor being swapped into the 6th generation celica.i have a 94 celica st and i want to do a beams swap..anywas i just wodnering what kind of car it was in...i mean what type of celica btw, bc i know the gt4 had the 3sgte and i figured the 3sge was also front wheel drive and in the motors on the regualr celicas in japan..anywas i just want some more information on the swap, any tips would help..thanks:)

[Supersprynt]

It was in the Celica SSIII

Sometimes people just plain old look in the wrong spot. On the homepage theres ALOT of info, this is some of said info:

JDM Engine Specifications

Celica 3S-GE with VVT-iIn Japan, the '94-98 Toyota Celica came with one of three engines. The SS-I came with the 3S-FE engine, the SS-II and SS-III came with the 3S-GE engine, and the GT-4 was powered by the 3S-GTE engine. In 1996, the 3S-FE engine was improved slightly to increase fuel economy and decrease vibrating noises. In 1997, Toyota introduced VVT-i to the 3S-GE engine for the 1998 Celica, which increased horsepower and torque substantially, and improved fuel economy. You can identify 3S-GE engines with VVT-i, because they have a red valve cover that says "Beams." The 3S-FE runs optimally on regular octane unleaded gasoline, but the more performance-oriented 3S-GE and 3S-GTE engines require premium octane unleaded gasoline.

Some people wonder if the 3S-GE engine will be the same as the 3S-GTE if you add a turbo to it. It will not be the same. The 3S-GE engine with VVT-i has a compression ratio of 11.0:1 and the 3S-GE without VVT-i has a compression ratio of 10.3:1, while the 3S-GTE engine has a compression ratio of 8.5:1. So to add a turbo to the 3S-GE, you would need to lower the compression through the use of internal engine parts. Below are the specifications for these engines.
Engine: 3S-FE 3S-GE 3S-GTE
Cylinders: 4 4 4
Displacement: 2.0 liters 2.0 liters 2.0 liters
Type: DOHC DOHC VVT-i1 DOHC
Horsepower: 138@6000 RPM 197@7000 RPM2 251@6000 RPM
Torque:(lbs.-ft.) 138@4400 RPM 152@6000 RPM3 225@4000 RPM
Forced Induction: None None Turbo

1 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE did not have VVT-i.
2 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE only produced 177 hp@7000 rpm.
3 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE only produced 142 lbs.-ft. of torque@4800 rpm.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Mar 1, 2006 - 11:21 PM

[Heytalktoryan]

It was in the Celica SSIII

Sometimes people just plain old look in the wrong spot. On the homepage theres ALOT of info, this is some of said info:

JDM Engine Specifications

Celica 3S-GE with VVT-iIn Japan, the '94-98 Toyota Celica came with one of three engines. The SS-I came with the 3S-FE engine, the SS-II and SS-III came with the 3S-GE engine, and the GT-4 was powered by the 3S-GTE engine. In 1996, the 3S-FE engine was improved slightly to increase fuel economy and decrease vibrating noises. In 1997, Toyota introduced VVT-i to the 3S-GE engine for the 1998 Celica, which increased horsepower and torque substantially, and improved fuel economy. You can identify 3S-GE engines with VVT-i, because they have a red valve cover that says "Beams." The 3S-FE runs optimally on regular octane unleaded gasoline, but the more performance-oriented 3S-GE and 3S-GTE engines require premium octane unleaded gasoline.

Some people wonder if the 3S-GE engine will be the same as the 3S-GTE if you add a turbo to it. It will not be the same. The 3S-GE engine with VVT-i has a compression ratio of 11.0:1 and the 3S-GE without VVT-i has a compression ratio of 10.3:1, while the 3S-GTE engine has a compression ratio of 8.5:1. So to add a turbo to the 3S-GE, you would need to lower the compression through the use of internal engine parts. Below are the specifications for these engines.
Engine: 3S-FE 3S-GE 3S-GTE
Cylinders: 4 4 4
Displacement: 2.0 liters 2.0 liters 2.0 liters
Type: DOHC DOHC VVT-i1 DOHC
Horsepower: 138@6000 RPM 197@7000 RPM2 251@6000 RPM
Torque:(lbs.-ft.) 138@4400 RPM 152@6000 RPM3 225@4000 RPM
Forced Induction: None None Turbo

1 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE did not have VVT-i.
2 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE only produced 177 hp@7000 rpm.
3 - In 1994 through 1997 Celicas, the 3S-GE only produced 142 lbs.-ft. of torque@4800 rpm.

thnaks man , acrually thast what i had found and it didnt answer any of the ?'s that i had.basically i just wanted to know if it had a fwd tranny and how easy of a swap it was into my celica, im really interested in the swap just ebcause all i seem to see are ppl with 3sgte swaps

[Batman722]

yes you can swap it and it is a FWD

[Heytalktoryan]

yes you can swap it and it is a FWD

awesoem thansk for all the help guys any idea on the price of one of these swaps?

[Batman722]

an average swap will cost you about $3000-$5000 depending on how much you do yourself and how much maintenance you put into the motor.

[CelicaZR]

There is one on ebay now for $2995 plus shipping

[Heytalktoryan]

haha i was just looking at that

[sugarfree]

i have one, but i wont tell you where i live.

[JFrost9]

i thought you had to sell the celica to pay for a plain ticket to go see your sick grandfather? and now your talking about pricey swaps? nice to see your back on the upside...ive heard some good things about this swap.

This post has been edited by JFrost9: Mar 2, 2006 - 2:09 AM