3sfe automatic swapped to a 3sgte manuel Options

[samguglielmo]

Just a few questions I have searched the web for some answers and have found nothing. I know not many 6 gen celicas came with a 3sfe. So not a lot of info on a swap for the motor or tranny or even the wiring. Most of the cars I have been reading about are st205. Is there that big of a difference for a st202? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Found a wiring harness on this site from Top Fuel,but cant find a web site to see if it will work for my st202 (3sfe). Are the motor mounts and tranny mounts going to be different? Another quick question how can I tell what my tranny(the 5spd) is and where it came from. Is there a plate on it or something that would be unique from one another??

This post has been edited by samguglielmo: Mar 18, 2006 - 8:04 PM

[Batman722]

USDM Celicas came with a 7a-fe (ST) and the 5s-fe (GT)

for great info on engine swaps, check the "sticky" at the top of the FI or engine forum

[samguglielmo]

Mine is a from japan st202 3sfe

[Batman722]

OK that changes things, I just looked in your profile

the fact that you have a JDM RHD Celica in the country is pretty rare, but being that that is a "S" series engine, the ST205 (3s-gte) will mount up to you existing motor mounts and you should be able to use the tranny you have already. I do not know if the 3s-fe tranny is as strong as the 5s tranny, but you should upgrade to a stronger tranny (93+ MR2 w/LSD, or V6 Camry or Solora tranny) because of the power the 3s will be putting out.

[celica47]

HOW in the hell did he do that?!

[Hanyo]

Do the automatic tranny use the same mounts as the manuals?

This post has been edited by Hanyo: Mar 18, 2006 - 1:40 AM

[samguglielmo]

I appreciate the info on the motor mounts. I will be swapping the tranny to a manual just because who wants a 3sgte motor with an auto tranny!! Besides what a great security system, who else will be able to drive a right hand car with a 5 speed tranny. I believe the tranny is from a mr2, that I will be swapping into the car. It came from a 90 celica with a swap done to it. Ant ideas on the wiring. That is my biggest fear on doing the swap myself.

HOW in the hell did he do that?!

I bought from a guy in florida about a year and a 1/2 ago on ebay.

[crismillencolin]

OK that changes things, I just looked in your profile

the fact that you have a JDM RHD Celica in the country is pretty rare, but being that that is a "S" series engine, the ST205 (3s-gte) will mount up to you existing motor mounts and you should be able to use the tranny you have already. I do not know if the 3s-fe tranny is as strong as the 5s tranny, but you should upgrade to a stronger tranny (93+ MR2 w/LSD, or V6 Camry or Solora tranny) because of the power the 3s will be putting out.

Owning a 3sfe myself - i believe i saw somewhere that the tranny from the 3sfe is as strong as you'll need! maybe somebody a bit more knowledgable will know for sure thou !

What power did the american engines put out ? We got 3sge and 3sfe GT engines putting out 180bhp and 140bhp (roughly) wasnt these in the us versions ?


P.s try www.toyotaownersclub.com for info on the 3sfe

This post has been edited by crismillencolin: Mar 18, 2006 - 8:55 PM

[ThAixGuYx2k7]

dude thats awesome =P

[Batman722]

Do the automatic tranny use the same mounts as the manuals?

yes. But the brackets are different (auto tranny and manual tranny)

[celicaST]

OK that changes things, I just looked in your profile

the fact that you have a JDM RHD Celica in the country is pretty rare, but being that that is a "S" series engine, the ST205 (3s-gte) will mount up to you existing motor mounts and you should be able to use the tranny you have already. I do not know if the 3s-fe tranny is as strong as the 5s tranny, but you should upgrade to a stronger tranny (93+ MR2 w/LSD, or V6 Camry or Solora tranny) because of the power the 3s will be putting out.

Owning a 3sfe myself - i believe i saw somewhere that the tranny from the 3sfe is as strong as you'll need! maybe somebody a bit more knowledgable will know for sure thou !

What power did the american engines put out ? We got 3sge and 3sfe GT engines putting out 180bhp and 140bhp (roughly) wasnt these in the us versions ?


P.s try www.toyotaownersclub.com for info on the 3sfe

nope we got slapped with the slow stick here in the states . usdm ST got the 7afe: 110hp and the GT got the 5sfe: 135hp.

[crismillencolin]

OK that changes things, I just looked in your profile

the fact that you have a JDM RHD Celica in the country is pretty rare, but being that that is a "S" series engine, the ST205 (3s-gte) will mount up to you existing motor mounts and you should be able to use the tranny you have already. I do not know if the 3s-fe tranny is as strong as the 5s tranny, but you should upgrade to a stronger tranny (93+ MR2 w/LSD, or V6 Camry or Solora tranny) because of the power the 3s will be putting out.

Owning a 3sfe myself - i believe i saw somewhere that the tranny from the 3sfe is as strong as you'll need! maybe somebody a bit more knowledgable will know for sure thou !

What power did the american engines put out ? We got 3sge and 3sfe GT engines putting out 180bhp and 140bhp (roughly) wasnt these in the us versions ?


P.s try www.toyotaownersclub.com for info on the 3sfe

nope we got slapped with the slow stick here in the states . usdm ST got the 7afe: 110hp and the GT got the 5sfe: 135hp.

Wow , i didnt know that - thanks . I wonder why they didnt just use the same engines ?

[samguglielmo]

anybody got a clue on the wiring????????

[Batman722]

the wiring for a st202 and a st205 is very similar. There might be a couple of wires that are different and need to be rerouted. 95% out it would be plug and play. It would be easiest if you bought a 94-95 st205 to swap into your 95 st202.